Cooling overhaul project

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It'd be nice if Nissan made a nismo appearance package for the sport, or just offered the nismo in a manual.

I'm curious to know if an aftermarket/nismo heat exchanger/radiator would make a noticeable difference on track.
 
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Isn’t the Nismo Z a daily driver that is meant to run on the track “here or there” ? Nissan added an aux heat exchanger as well as an aux radiator to keep things cool. Assuming that an aftermarket radiator is a proven design and has more cores than factory, couldn’t we assume that it would help to keep high temps at bay? Also, a larger more efficient oil cooler would probably do the same I would think. As long as your cooling isn’t so efficient that you’re not getting up to optimal heat range, the only downside side I can think of would be added weight however the increase in performance/ longevity, I would guess, would out weigh (pun intended) the negatives….
That being said, which part is the most important out of the list of possible upgrades? It is for absolutely sure the heat exchanger. This has been proven for years in the Q50 & Q60’s.
If our friend above wants to add all three and then go to the track and then report back his findings, who are we to nay say his track day test and tune process?
remember, the Nismo has been tuned for overboosting and therefore has a bigger expansion tank, having a tune of just 20 more HP and 34+ LBF, the power increase is everywhere on the powerband- therefore more heat. More power = more heat, to make it reliable it's a much needed upgrade. And I personally wouldn't say it's a track "here and there" car, the bite of the brakes is aggressive same with the torque delivery to power out of a corner. Lastly with all Z cars, they've all been tuned in some way shape or form, so an aftermarket intercooler doesn't equate to the Stock being inadequate.
 

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remember, the Nismo has been tuned for overboosting and therefore has a bigger expansion tank, having a tune of just 20 more HP and 34+ LBF, the power increase is everywhere on the powerband- therefore more heat. More power = more heat, to make it reliable it's a much needed upgrade. And I personally wouldn't say it's a track "here and there" car, the bite of the brakes is aggressive same with the torque delivery to power out of a corner. Lastly with all Z cars, they've all been tuned in some way shape or form, so an aftermarket intercooler doesn't equate to the Stock being inadequate.
Yeah, I’m not down talking the Nismo by any means. That being said, it is still a street car. A lot of what Nissan did to the Nismo vs the other Z’s are just little nuances that make small differences here and there and work together to make a more tractable sports car. If you were to turn one into a track dedicated car, a lot of what makes it a Nismo would be pulled out and replaced by actual race car parts. The GT4 is a race car.
 

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The one thing I would suggest to OP is reconsider Mishimoto for any radiator situation. While researching for my 370z it was noted time and time again their build quality is not great and several cracked before, during, and after installation.

CZP recommended upgrading to the AMS heat exchanger before their oil cooler, stating the heat exchanger is the most important. I found it refreshing to hear a company promote another company's product first before their own product with the consumer in mind.

I also spoke with them having the focus of the call making my Z a track car (mostly track car, tbh), so the use case was the same.

Looks like the AMS heat exchanger is on sale rn đź‘€

Edit: Negative, the OP linked AAM heat exchanger, not AMS heat exchanger, my B
 

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Yes, in order of importance, the heat exchanger is definitely No.1. ESPECIALLY when the car has a tune.
 

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The one thing I would suggest to OP is reconsider Mishimoto for any radiator situation. While researching for my 370z it was noted time and time again their build quality is not great and several cracked before, during, and after installation.

CZP recommended upgrading to the AMS heat exchanger before their oil cooler, stating the heat exchanger is the most important. I found it refreshing to hear a company promote another company's product first before their own product with the consumer in mind.

I also spoke with them having the focus of the call making my Z a track car (mostly track car, tbh), so the use case was the same.

Looks like the AMS heat exchanger is on sale rn đź‘€

Edit: Negative, the OP linked AAM heat exchanger, not AMS heat exchanger, my B
I agree the heat exchanger is probably the one thing that is proven to work, however are you saying they recommended the AMS heat exchanger on the Z, rather than their own product? I talked to CZP two weeks ago and placed an order for their heat exchanger based on the feedback and my experience with CSF's quality for heat exchangers.
 
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It'd be nice if Nissan made a nismo appearance package for the sport, or just offered the nismo in a manual.

I'm curious to know if an aftermarket/nismo heat exchanger/radiator would make a noticeable difference on track.
I'm pretty sure it will be a measurable difference. Also the engine won't be sluggish in the heat.
The one thing I would suggest to OP is reconsider Mishimoto for any radiator situation. While researching for my 370z it was noted time and time again their build quality is not great and several cracked before, during, and after installation.

CZP recommended upgrading to the AMS heat exchanger before their oil cooler, stating the heat exchanger is the most important. I found it refreshing to hear a company promote another company's product first before their own product with the consumer in mind.

I also spoke with them having the focus of the call making my Z a track car (mostly track car, tbh), so the use case was the same.

Looks like the AMS heat exchanger is on sale rn đź‘€

Edit: Negative, the OP linked AAM heat exchanger, not AMS heat exchanger, my B
I've read about QC from mishimoto being sketchy but I can't find a thicker than stock core radiator for the RZ34. Also CZP is thicker than AMS
 

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I'm pretty sure it will be a measurable difference. Also the engine won't be sluggish in the heat.

I've read about QC from mishimoto being sketchy but I can't find a thicker than stock core radiator for the RZ34. Also CZP is thicker than AMS
Yup, CZP is thiccer than the AMS one. They didn't have their manufactured and ready to release yet when I spoke to them. I am considering the CZP one instead of the AMS, especially at the price point.
 

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Yup, CZP is thiccer than the AMS one. They didn't have their manufactured and ready to release yet when I spoke to them. I am considering the CZP one instead of the AMS, especially at the price point.
Thanks for clarifying, I have one arriving today, so I will get some pics for folks of the CZP once it get's installed.
 

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I agree the heat exchanger is probably the one thing that is proven to work, however are you saying they recommended the AMS heat exchanger on the Z, rather than their own product? I talked to CZP two weeks ago and placed an order for their heat exchanger based on the feedback and my experience with CSF's quality for heat exchangers.
No, when I spoke to them on the phone a few weeks ago they had not released a heat exchanger yet. They told me to buy AMS's heat exchanger first, because a heat exchanger was more important than their oil cooler that CZP made. Sorry if that was confusing. They listed the priority of cooling products noting that heat exchanger was first (sent me to AMS due to not having their own CZP one released yet), and then oil cooler (CZP's) would be a lower priority after the heat exchanger.
 
 






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