Why the long delay in pricing?

[Orion]

I understand this aspect as well. I know the half BMW/half Toyota kills it for a lot of people. For me, I don't really care too much about heritage. I just want good looking, solid made, good performing sports car, period. I don't care who makes it. I know the new Supra's looks tends to be 50/50 for a lot of people, but again I think they look pretty damn good. In person they look even better and definitely stand out on the road. The other thing is the manual; personally I don't drive manual, so I'd be getting the automatic either way and I hear the ZF8 in the Supra is absurdly good.

I love my 370Z, but I want my next car to be a step above it and I just don't know if the new Z will be a big enough step. But again, I hope I'm proven wrong when we see the reviews for it next month.

I know it's beating a dead horse but had the Supra not been part BMW...it would have been first on my list.

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

I love my 370Z, but I want my next car to be a step above it and I just don't know if the new Z will be a big enough step

In many ways the new "Z" is really just a 370Z with updated bodywork and a few tweaks.

 

[Longhorn2020]

Disagree. I personally think $50k is a fair asking price for performance spec. And I can see a Nismo reaching $65-70k. Everything has simply gotten more expensive.

Agreed, but I see the Nismo being around 60k-65k max hopefully, which would still undercut the GRMN version of the Supra.

 

[takemorepills]

I know the half BMW/half Toyota kills it for a lot of people.

100% BMW. Even the Toyota badges are made by BMW.

 

[Blackbeard]

I don’t know I think 50k is pushing it there a lot more powerful cars in that price range

 

[therumblewagon]

Agreed @Blackbeard - I really don’t think Nissan can afford for this thing to crack the 50k tier for Performance spec.

Yes, we’re dealing with inflation and a once-in-a-generation pandemic causing all kinds of problems, but that shouldn’t warrant asking for more than the car is (likely) worth.

They HAVE to undercut Toyota, and by a healthy margin. MSRP is just shy of 52k for the 6-banger, so anything north of 47k is playing with fire imo.

 

[jc604]

Agreed @Blackbeard - I really don’t think Nissan can afford for this thing to crack the 50k tier for Performance spec.

Yes, we’re dealing with inflation and a once-in-a-generation pandemic causing all kinds of problems, but that shouldn’t warrant asking for more than the car is (likely) worth.

They HAVE to undercut Toyota, and by a healthy margin. MSRP is just shy of 52k for the 6-banger, so anything north of 47k is playing with fire imo.

Anything close to 50k is not going to be successful. Let alone dragging this release to the bitter end and flopping the price. Pretty much from what i seen on sitting reviews it really is a reskinned 370z. Lots of parts bin interior but revamped but as you see in modern cars today that’s pretty much standard now. So now can you justify a 10k increase from the base 30k 370z with just a couple of things upgraded (the engine) but it is already an old engine made for the infiniti. Seems like this huge delay for the firm price reveal is to really get it right for people to justify buying this car. My guess would be 38k for the sport grade and 44k for the performance but hey who knows ??

 

[Blackbeard]

Yea perf at 43-44 steal 45k I’m like ok ok that’s cool but 50k I’m like ?

 

[FBD]

I sold it, there are photos on the “what car do you wish you had back” thread But here are a couple again ( more on the other thread )

Wait...was this in a Bond film?

I sold it, there are photos on the “what car do you wish you had back” thread But here are a couple again ( more on the other thread )

I have to respond again...why did you sell this?

 

[FBD]

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I simply would never buy a BMW. The Mustang will still be a tank. The GR86 is too underpowered. The Z is made in Tochigi, Japan. Nissan just spent $300+ million on that factory for more robots and improved fit and finish.

Yes. Completely agree. And I am from Canada (disclaimer) but why does everyone think 50K is a lot for a car? That is basically free here where I live. The Supra is 72K. Cayman 4.0L is 115K. If you want a 4 cylinder then to me that's not a sports car. The entry level Cayman at 350HP with a 4pot you can have.

 

[West Aussie]

Wait...was this in a Bond film?

I have to respond again...why did you sell this?

Because I wanted the z And I couldn’t have both.
Also the Peugeot was almost 7 years old…little things started going wrong with it, and being European those little things cost a lot.
Also as mentioned not many survived, the turbo engine was know to explode, and along with car accidents etc only around half still remain, therefore I kept thinking it was only a matter of time till my number came up.
I loved it though, it was a joy to drive, lots of fun, comfortable, the right amount of tech without being over done
At one stage we did actually own a Lotus Esprite, same type that was in the Bond movies …that went when we had kids

I literally Stood at the end of my driveway and cried as it drove away when I sold it, but was probably for the best.
I only wish I had kept it for a bit longer…had I known the wait for the Z was going to be this long I would have, but I was told it would be here December last year, so the RCZ was sold in October and now I drive an old crappy Hyundai i20 which will be my younger sons first car ?

 

[2017370ZBlack]

lol tell me u havent been in the newer mustangs.

I've driven Mustangs. Hate the interior, handling, and looks. Terrible fit and finish. A 5.0 GT got beside me on I-15 between LA and Vegas and kept honking his horn at me, so I obliged and pulled away from that tank.

 

[Blackbeard]

I've driven Mustangs. Hate the interior, handling, and looks. Terrible fit and finish. A 5.0 GT got beside me on I-15 between LA and Vegas and kept honking his horn at me, so I obliged and pulled away from that tank.

im assuming u had more than just and intake and exhaust cause no way you out running a mustang 15+ with just that

 

[fliplover]

While I obviously want the sticker price to be as low as possible, one thing to consider when comparing the Z vs. the Zupra is long term cost of ownership, not just the sticker price.

BMW 3-Series Vs Audi A4 Vs Nissan 370Z Vs Lexus IS

The 3 Series is one of the most popular BMW models. We decided to compare its maintenance and repair costs to models from a few other brands: the Audi A4, Nissan 370Z, and Lexus IS. Like before, we’ll look at five-year costs for owning 2019 and 2015 models.


First, we’ll compare the 2019 BMW 330i, 2019 Audi A4, 2019 Nissan 370Z, and 2019 Lexus IS 300:

Cost	BMW 330i	Audi A4	Nissan 370Z	Lexus IS 300
2019 Vehicle Price	$44,699	$44,752	$29,319	$36,616
2019 Vehicle Maintenance For Next 5 Years	$7,948	$7,344	$4,952	$7,973
2019 Vehicle Repairs For Next 5 Years	$2,609	$2,149	$677	$1,140

For 2019 models, there’s not much difference between the BMW 330i and the Audi A4. The Lexus IS 300 is right up there for maintenance costs, but repairs are much cheaper. But the Nissan 370Z wins the battle with the cheapest maintenance and repairs.


Now, let’s look at the 2015 BMW 328i, 2015 Audi A4, 2015 Nissan 370Z, and 2015 Lexus IS 250:

Cost	BMW 328i	Audi A4	Nissan 370Z	Lexus IS 250
2015 Vehicle Price	$15,924	$18,342	$20,529	$21,373
2015 Vehicle Maintenance For Next 5 Years	$10,700	$8,118	$7,244	$10,044
2015 Vehicle Repairs For Next 5 Years	$8,842	$7,291	$2,514	$3,208

https://www.motor1.com/reviews/406108/bmw-maintenance-cost/

 

[indio22]

Personally I'm willing to pay up to $50-55k for nismo, and 50k for perf 6mt. I've had eyes on a few 6mt cars in the $55k range, but nothing really tickles my fancy as much as the Z. Supra, is very very nice, love the way it looks and performs and the aftermarket is killing it...but not wanting a half and half edm-jdm car..want something that brings back the JDM 90s TT sports car nostalgia..Gt350 is option but mustang is too big, brz and miata are too small and not grand touring enough. Left with Z essentially....which I don't mind at all.

I think wheelbase of the BRZ and Z are near the same at a hair over 100". As is the overall length and width by a few inches. The BRZ occupant/cargo space is arguably larger and more flexible, due to the folding rear seat and trunk. And as an occupant, I haven't felt cramped (in the front seats).

For me, the price/usefulness is a key thing. I'm not spending 50k on a car used mainly for driving around aimlessly. Even though sure, sometimes I like driving around aimlessly.

I want my car to complement the other things I do in life. I picked up two garage heaters and supplies from Menards (home improvement store) the other day. And I got to enjoy driving my BRZ same time, by fitting the heaters into the fold down rear seat area. Parked next to all the SUVs and pickups, lol.

50k for me, is going to be a tough sell, if I end up having to leave the Z in the garage too often. 40k or especially 38k, would make that proposition much more palatable.