Yeah, I've watched countless reviews and talked to people who own them and they absolutely love the car. My biggest hesitation, and ultimately why I pivoted away, was that damn Subaru engine.
Nope. The Z is no slouch, and probably works just fine as a canyon carver. However, that's not the same as a car intentionally designed to excel in dynamic feedback, like a Miata or 86.
I hear ya. Subies don’t make the best engines that’s fur dang sure. Still hard to deny for $30k though.
In terms of R&D and actual production, yeh it should be familiar territory and I wouldn’t expect major hurdles (which makes the MT grinding issues embarrassingMeh, the Z is essentially a 370z so that theory doesn't really hold. It's not some bespoke model they created out of thin air. I agree with takemorepills (reminds me I still need to take my morning pills!) theory. Nissan likely doesn't have the buying power of say a Toyota or Honda. Sure we're not seeing GRC's and CTR's flood the market, but they're basically more available than the Z that has been around since the stone ages. Nissan is an embattled company. There is nothing exciting in the Nissan lineup. The Z had an opportunity but reviews are lukewarm. Add in limited availability and people have simply moved on. Myself included. I just stick around cuz the regulars are coolWhen was the last time we saw a thread of someone picking up their new Z? Might've been a 370z thread
). I don't agree with the muscle car claims, but It's not as agile or stiff as the 86. It is substantially faster and more refined esp on average to poor roads though. I didn't have a chance to really load the Z up on the corners, but I could tell it would need aftermarket suspension to be able to throw it around like an 86.
All the more reason why I'm thinking more and more it would be better to just get the Sport/base model and then upgrade it with the Nismo parts (intake, exhaust, brakes, suspension).
Agreed. Nissan has more important things to focus on, like keeping the lights on. Like you said, the 2-seaters aren't those. On the flip side, Toyota is offering THREE performance oriented cars. Just a few years ago they didn't have anything "fun." Now look at 'em!In terms of R&D and actual production, yeh it should be familiar territory and I wouldn’t expect major hurdles (which makes the MT grinding issues embarrassing
My point is because there are still apparent labor & resource shortages affecting the auto industry, manufacturering capacities likely become tightly rationed for a company like Nissan; And the Z, despite the fact it’s only a “refresh” of the previous gen, is a dedicated 2-seater performance vehicle that really doesn’t share a whole lot of major components with any of Nissan’s high-volume models, i.e. minimal cost sharing. So giving the Z any serious assembly line time atm sounds like tough ask to me.
Dude. Toyota totally has my attention these days.
