Everyday Driver - Nissan Z vs GR86 & 370z Review

[MHockey17]

Meh, the Z is essentially a 370z so that theory doesn't really hold. It's not some bespoke model they created out of thin air. I agree with takemorepills (reminds me I still need to take my morning pills!) theory. Nissan likely doesn't have the buying power of say a Toyota or Honda. Sure we're not seeing GRC's and CTR's flood the market, but they're basically more available than the Z that has been around since the stone ages. Nissan is an embattled company. There is nothing exciting in the Nissan lineup. The Z had an opportunity but reviews are lukewarm. Add in limited availability and people have simply moved on. Myself included. I just stick around cuz the regulars are cool When was the last time we saw a thread of someone picking up their new Z? Might've been a 370z thread ?

In terms of R&D and actual production, yeh it should be familiar territory and I wouldn’t expect major hurdles (which makes the MT grinding issues embarrassing ?).

My point is because there are still apparent labor & resource shortages affecting the auto industry, manufacturering capacities likely become tightly rationed for a company like Nissan; And the Z, despite the fact it’s only a “refresh” of the previous gen, is a dedicated 2-seater performance vehicle that really doesn’t share a whole lot of major components with any of Nissan’s high-volume models, i.e. minimal cost sharing. So giving the Z any serious assembly line time atm sounds like tough ask to me.

 

[BurninateZ]

A reason I want to test drive a Z before buying, is because I want to test if the Z has the road feel, light and nimble handling of my BRZ, to go along with the Z's superior engine power.

I don't agree with the muscle car claims, but It's not as agile or stiff as the 86. It is substantially faster and more refined esp on average to poor roads though. I didn't have a chance to really load the Z up on the corners, but I could tell it would need aftermarket suspension to be able to throw it around like an 86.

 

[z_ya_later]

I don't agree with the muscle car claims, but It's not as agile or stiff as the 86. It is substantially faster and more refined esp on average to poor roads though. I didn't have a chance to really load the Z up on the corners, but I could tell it would need aftermarket suspension to be able to throw it around like an 86.

All the more reason why I'm thinking more and more it would be better to just get the Sport/base model and then upgrade it with the Nismo parts (intake, exhaust, brakes, suspension).

 

[siggy]

In terms of R&D and actual production, yeh it should be familiar territory and I wouldn’t expect major hurdles (which makes the MT grinding issues embarrassing ?).

My point is because there are still apparent labor & resource shortages affecting the auto industry, manufacturering capacities likely become tightly rationed for a company like Nissan; And the Z, despite the fact it’s only a “refresh” of the previous gen, is a dedicated 2-seater performance vehicle that really doesn’t share a whole lot of major components with any of Nissan’s high-volume models, i.e. minimal cost sharing. So giving the Z any serious assembly line time atm sounds like tough ask to me.

Agreed. Nissan has more important things to focus on, like keeping the lights on. Like you said, the 2-seaters aren't those. On the flip side, Toyota is offering THREE performance oriented cars. Just a few years ago they didn't have anything "fun." Now look at 'em!

 

[takemorepills]

Agreed. Nissan has more important things to focus on, like keeping the lights on. Like you said, the 2-seaters aren't those. On the flip side, Toyota is offering THREE performance oriented cars. Just a few years ago they didn't have anything "fun." Now look at 'em!

Dude. Toyota totally has my attention these days.

We have a Corolla hatchback, and we love it, it's like a little Lexus.

The GR Corolla.....
The Supra.....
The 86.....
The new Tundra.....

And now the Prius......

Nissan is floundering hard. They bet their limited resources on the Ariya. Idiots should have immediately hit the brakes on that damn vehicle when the pandemic hit. They lied to themselves and their investors, trying to show they could still deliver a moonshot with nearly zero resources.

I don't care what some say, the new Z is badass, some people keep trying to bitch about it. And that's what's so sad. I truly, truly believe Nissan tried to pivot too hard with the Ariya, and other products paid the price for losing that bet.

We used to be a Nissan family, but Toyota is beginning to infiltrate our fleet. I truly hope I can get a new Z, but I wouldn't be surprised if we're all Toyota in 3 years in my house....

 

[Kelvin]

Yeah to each his own. I’m taking a Performance 6speed Z all day. Not for the speed, but just because it’s such a beautiful car and with a little speed.

 

[Kelvin]

Yeah, I've watched countless reviews and talked to people who own them and they absolutely love the car. My biggest hesitation, and ultimately why I pivoted away, was that damn Subaru engine.

Fast forward a few years and Toyota makes this easy to throw in? Sign me the heck up https://www.thedrive.com/news/you-can-buy-a-toyota-gr-corolla-crate-engine-but-its-tricky

BRZ over the new Z? You can’t be serious.