First ride along in 2023 Z (Automatic Passion Red)

[Houston.RZ34]

I'm shocked the Qs didn't receive the 9AT, the damned old Frontier did!

I didn't see any announcements, but it wouldn't surprise me if both Qs are killed at the same time. Seeing as how the new Z didn't get a new chassis, but did receive a competitive engine, and the Qs have had a competitive engine and are unlikely to get a new chassis either, they're both dead.
9AT won't fix what's wrong with the Qs, unless Nissan can figure out a way to knock $8k off across the board.

The "Skyline" name will never die in Japan and the 400R is selling like hotcakes, Japan got the VR30 about 4 years late. Q60 is NA only.

The Q50 is doing OK here thanks to the competitive leases on them, Q60.....not so much.

We'll get a "deep refresh" of the Q50 ala Z.

 

[TaroBaapG35]

Boost delivery and 9at shift speed on medium throttle input is def nicely welcome. Big question is going to be how the downshifts and lower speed manual shifting is. in D mode the car seems to shift smoothly and quickly in low rpms, but should be interesting to see how quickly the car shifts down the gears when you plant the throttle in higher gears

 

[takemorepills]

Boost delivery and 9at shift speed on medium throttle input is def nicely welcome. Big question is going to be how the downshifts and lower speed manual shifting is. in D mode the car seems to shift smoothly and quickly in low rpms, but should be interesting to see how quickly the car shifts down the gears when you plant the throttle in higher gears

Can't be any worse than the 7AT!

 

[Evolution]

Can't be any worse than the 7AT!

But will it be better than the ZF8?

 

[bboypuertoroc]

Does the fact that there is no active exhaust/sport mode on the Manual Performance not bother any one else?

Nope. I would never use the active exhaust so it's really just a waste. Shit would ALWAYS stay open. Not sure if the 9AT sport mode or whatever it's called does things like alter shift points and whatnot but that's not needed on a manual where you can alter shift points by shifting earlier or later.

 

[theboosh]

I think the issue is that without the active exhaust the manual performance is going to be quieter/restricted, going off videos/reports.

 

[Longhorn2020]

But will it be better than the ZF8?

Seems like it will be on par if not better than the zf8. Test will tell in the end which has better performance.

 

[FBD]

Nope. I would never use the active exhaust so it's really just a waste. Shit would ALWAYS stay open. Not sure if the 9AT sport mode or whatever it's called does things like alter shift points and whatnot but that's not needed on a manual where you can alter shift points by shifting earlier or later.

I think I completely agree with you. I would keep it OPEN all the time too. However, my real question (and what I was trying to get at) was around the fear that the manual sport exhaust is permanently "closed". Anyone have any info on this? My last 370Z I had the Invidia Gemini and now I've been looking at the Armytrix with the dual mode. Seems like this one is going to need an after market. Having said that...the 9AT exhaust in sport mode sounded good.

 

[FBD]

I think the issue is that without the active exhaust the manual performance is going to be quieter/restricted, going off videos/reports.

This is my fear.

 

[Numbersguy]

Definitely digging the way it sounds as well and seems to be a performer from the looks of it.

The exhaust does sound very good. Glad they didn't go with the cracks of the Supra exhaust as that sound never appealed to me.

 

[Evolution]

Seems like it will be on par if not better than the zf8. Test will tell in the end which has better performance.

I really hope it is. I didnt hear any shift crackles like most other fast shifting autos (none DCT) so it has me wondering...

 

[JoeTX]

what a freaking TEASE! C'mon Nissan give it to us

 

[Yasha]

The active exhaust is controlled by Sport mode on the 9AT. No modes on the 6MT so no active exhaust. There are other methods they could have used so that both transmission options could have it, like based on RPM, but they chose not to.

Why not just leave them open? Someone buying this car would want them to be open. Like me!

The manual is noticeably quieter and has a slightly different axle back exhaust based on leaked pictures. Listen to the video below. The Nissan corp guy even talks about the active exhaust being able to stay open all the time in the automatic and the manual not having a 'Sport mode'.

Big sad. Aftermarket here I come...

 

[jose3030]

Wow, will I actually end up getting the Automatic then, for the exhaust note tunes???

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

"We" don't want it too loud.
Many sports cars can be obnoxiously loud, which is a pain in the backside for the entire street when, for example, someone goes to work in it early in the morning. Some are even made to fake the noise louder because it encourages fools believe the car is more powerful than a quieter car.