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Yeah, a lot of that switchgear carries over from the 370, from what I can tell, so it does feel a bit low effort in that regard. Unsurprising that it has a dated feel to it, even if the design is significantly more modern and appealing. I can understand that conflict in the execution.

It's all just so far out-of-bounds, it's really embarrassing. Like, here's you, presumably legitimately looking to buy a car and the protocol is, what, to disregard anyone who is looking for something approaching on a reasonable price?

This is only half-hyperbolic. I'm down here looking at $90,000 Protos being offered with absolutely zero shame. To be clear, there should be much shame.

Yep, that 3-piece spoiler reminds me a little bit of the Fairlady Custom concept in terms of its width, but this appears to have a more tapered look, which is nice.

Facts. I imagine that I will see one on the streets at some point soon, just based upon my specific geographical location, but this car is going to be bigfoot-level elusive for quite a while, I fear.

Very curious about this... Factory optional tunes can work really well (GM does this pretty successfully) since the updates are generally in line with the vehicles' core dynamics so they don't require many additional upgrades to be out-of-the-box functional. I'd do it.

Nissan doing Nissan shite ?

I'm torn on the Supra's design, also. I see them all over Naples (I'd argue they're roughly as common as a 370) and, at a distance, they have incredible presence on the road. You not only recognize from afar that it's a pretty serious machine, you can readily identify it's a Supra soon after...

That's what I thought! Looking at the lower image, though, I'm thinking that they are just a true satin finish and don't hold the light very well. Slick design, however.

They surely did. Assuming that Nissan also took steps to ensure that dealers couldn't hamstring the rollout with ADM, I totally agree. Like a $37K Sport and a $46k Performance, even (do change the silly names, though, Nissan). If Nissan threatened to withhold deliveries (of various models) to...

Nissan bungling as only Nissan can ?

Oh, I see, so in that photo the door was recently unlocked. That's actually quite a relief. I realize that Nissan has lost the plot on this whole launch but I didn't want to believe they were taking us back to that dark time ?

Wait, so the exterior lighting can just be toggled on at any time? Like old-school aftermarket ground effects light kits?? I assumed these only illuminated when a door was opened, like on many luxury vehicles. Good god, it's like being taken back to 2006 ?

Oh, absolutely. I'd have one.

Pity vote FTW!

Definitely possible. It comes down to whether or not the panel is more focused on that nostalgia-baiting or wants to appear more forward-looking.

I have the same response to Nissan Z marketing. The rollout has been so awful that the vehicle has basically become vaporware. It's gotten to the point that it's almost false advertising ?

Yeah, I read about this one. More complaints about wheelspin issues, evidently :rolleyes:

I don't particularly love the Watanabe on the new Z, but I understand why it's an iconic look and why it's important that this wheel design doesn't generally clash with the styling. R&T actually does a decent job explaining it.