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Nissan's chief engineer disagrees.
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Savagegeese pits the 2023 Nissan Z vs Supra
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Let's revisit what you said right quick...
Doubt Nissan's chief engineer has anything to do with any other RWD car, let alone a RWD car "like the Z". 550rwhp ain't shit on a RWD sports car. If 550 is too much, it might be time to learn how to drive a RWD sports car.
BurninateZ
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No one is denying the Supra performs better, but I don't value 'a bit better' performance over everything else. I'm not competing with it.
I think it's great that the Supra exists, but it's not what I'm looking for.
Tbh, if I we're a bit more budget conscious I'd get a GR86 without hesitation.
DevonK
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If E-cars are as boring to drive IRL as they are in sims (and from my very limited experience so far they seem to be), regardless of how fast they are, I'll keep drinking the dino juice....
Bobcat
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Yeah, I'm not holding my breath either. But the rendering of the new Challenger/Charger or whatever if will be called looks pretty sweet from the front at least. I heard they are going to add some kind of decent sound to it that is supposed to increase with throttle response. AWD would be good for the winter where I live and if it ends up being over 600hp and under 60k, it may be worth checking out. I'm still worried about the charging stations in mostly rural areas like I live and the electric grid in general. I would have to get a generator at a minimum also and see what the cost of electric is compared to gas is a couple years too. I hear its only like 8% cheaper to own and operate an electric car compared to a sport/muscle car at the moment too so not that much difference to make up for the sound and soul of an ICE powered car, but we will see...
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Posting the same question that I posted in the Supra forums:
For the Performance trim at $50+k the Z isn't the Supra killer that some may have hoped, but at what $ value would the Z be a Supra killer of VALUE? Would a base Z (40$K) with a performance pack (LSD/Brakes/wheels/tires) priced under $45k be a Supra killer? Or if Nissan could keep the $40k base trim and just add an LSD, would it be a Supra and GR86 killer? Any track rat would be upgrading the brakes/wheels/tires/suspension on a performance trim Z or Supra, so this could be the potential ultimate tuner car at $40k with an LSD.
For the Performance trim at $50+k the Z isn't the Supra killer that some may have hoped, but at what $ value would the Z be a Supra killer of VALUE? Would a base Z (40$K) with a performance pack (LSD/Brakes/wheels/tires) priced under $45k be a Supra killer? Or if Nissan could keep the $40k base trim and just add an LSD, would it be a Supra and GR86 killer? Any track rat would be upgrading the brakes/wheels/tires/suspension on a performance trim Z or Supra, so this could be the potential ultimate tuner car at $40k with an LSD.
trackratZ
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Even without Nissan's LSD, add your own tried and true Quaife or OS Giken which are more bulletproof anyway. Just take the base Sport and upgrade the rest as mentioned, plus seats. It'll be a lighter, more competitive Z for sure. I'm still contemplating this since the Performance will be raked with ADM silly, less likely the unwanted Sport lol.
Sample config: (paint +$895, cargo net +$35, that's it) not bad just under $42K
https://www.nissanusa.com/shopping-tools/build-price/c/29517/BABey:AwpEKDaD0
I can start the build from there, with much better performance upgrades.
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IMO, this has always been the ethos of the Z cars; it’s not gonna blow away the competition or lead the pack, but its got solid bones and is (usually) cheap enough to build into whatever kind of car you want for a good price.
Plus the aftermarket is already pretty mature for this platform, should be possible to do full builds from day 1.
takemorepills
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I don't think the Akebono brakes are that much better than the base steel brakes.
The Sport is beginning to make some sense now.....
It only cost me $2500 to have a HLSD installed in my truck.....
And most people who are serious about tracking a Z would probably want better brake kit, lighter wheels and a proven diff....
Could a Sport, with $10K or less in mods, outperform a Performance on the track? Probably...
The Sport is beginning to make some sense now.....
It only cost me $2500 to have a HLSD installed in my truck.....
And most people who are serious about tracking a Z would probably want better brake kit, lighter wheels and a proven diff....
Could a Sport, with $10K or less in mods, outperform a Performance on the track? Probably...
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takemorepills
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Ah, that one's a little bit unfair.maybe so.
also this reminds me...
$10k is probably all the Sport would need, if you wrench on your own car.
LSD
Brake kit
Lightweight wheels (don't go buying the most expensive wheels)
Appropriate tires
Coilovers
Rollbars
My main issue with the Sport would be the 8" infotainment. We'll have to see if people figure out an affordable way to swap that.
Blackbeard
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that looks like to swap it ur going to have to remove the dash well not the whole dash if ur lucky maybe that spot under the screen and that part to the passenger side