So a 3.00T Supra in the states starts at 55k MSRP. So if the Z is 40-50k for the sport and performance you would be looking 5-15k cheaper. Thats a big amount for most people.
We are in the middle of the worst auto market sense WWII so it's hard to get things moving in the way people want. Plus this market isn't going anywhere any time soon. People don't have to like it but it's the brutal reality of the market we live in. I have no doubt Nissan isn't doing everything it can to make the car launch as good as it can. But Nissan or any manufacturer can't keep up with the rest of their line up they currently have.
They can't build enough. Nissan is doing rolling productions producing models in bulk and manufacturing other models at a slower rate or stopping all together. Things are going to be like this for a while and blaming Nissan for it is ignorant.
When it comes to information being released I wouldn't want to give it to us monsters either. People start arguing about a 100lbs and act like the car is going to be a giant pile and handle like a Challenger. The car isn't coming with Ttops because it's not 1993 anymore but that is the last straw for people. If Nissan came out and said the 0-60 was 4.3 I promise there will be people with pitchforks and fire at their keyboards talking about how it's slower than the BMW Supra and isn't worth it. Enthusiasts are the worst people to market to because they are almost never happy because it's never enough.
hmm, for my part I don't think I was blaming Nissan, more asking questions.
Yep, fact. As there are for every enthusiast vehicle. Which people will do anyways once it gets released. Doesn't preclude Nissan from offering up information. This painful slow roll is just causing people to lose interest. Nothing worse for a business than losing customers. Nissan hasn't exactly been a sought after brand the past decade or two. They need to rebuild their brand, and this ain't a good start. Makes ya wonder why they haven't released much. But it sounds like your post sums up what you're expecting
Eh, I dunno if I agree with the last bit. I'm not defending the release at all, but we've solidified timelines some, have a better idea of pricing (outside of just shots in the dark, now they're a little more informed shots in the dark). It's progress.Yep, fact. As there are for every enthusiast vehicle. Which people will do anyways once it gets released. Doesn't preclude Nissan from offering up information. This painful slow roll is just causing people to lose interest. Nothing worse for a business than losing customers. Nissan hasn't exactly been a sought after brand the past decade or two. They need to rebuild their brand, and this ain't a good start. Makes ya wonder why they haven't released much. But it sounds like your post sums up what you're expecting
Also, your thread title is clickbait...
If your dealership has a history of tuning Z's and backs you then they make sure it goes through. The fine print only matters when someone is trying to not support you.
My last dealer did bolt ons. However, what is taking place now is simply remapping and slight tune to spool us the turbos in the Red Sport. They do it routinely they say and reported they are getting 600HP reliably.
Touching on your comments. No manufacturer has control over COVID, world issues, supply issues, shipping issues so if that causes negative impacts which it already has that can't be helped. I guess you could delay the launch and launch with more units but that will just piss everyone off with delays.
What I'm curious about is if it's actually the dealer that's doing the warranty and not Nissan. Manufacturers aren't kind when it comes to how they handle their warranties and Nissan may be one of the worst. I mean it pretty much took a class action lawsuit to get Nissan to pay for the CVT issues they had from 2012-2016. I'm not saying the dealer is good on the warranty of your work but I'm curious if it's the actual dealer that is holding the warranty not Nissan.
