A Great Conversation with Dan Passe on 2023 Nissan Z [Specs, Release, Pricing]

[Dotson]

AMS Performance has proven light mods and tuning can get you to 500HP, 600HP is a stretch though.

Maybe 500 engine hp, not to the wheels. About 450 to the wheels. makes sense. E85 will get you closer. And it's about $4k in mods.

 

[McLovin157]

If your dealership has a history of tuning Z's and backs you then they make sure it goes through. The fine print only matters when someone is trying to not support you.

So after reading a very boring Warranty for the Infinity Q50 Red Sport here's what I've gathered.

“INFINITI’s New Vehicle Limited Warranty, and Limited Warranty on replacement parts do not apply to any parts other than genuine original equipment parts. INFINITI will not be responsible for any subsequent repair costs associated with a vehicle and/or part failure caused by the use of parts other than genuine replacement parts.”

So I would say it's the dealer that you work with that is warrantying your work and parts not Infinity/Nissan. Which is a great don't get me wrong that is awesome they would do that. But I don't see any way Infinity/Nissan would ever approve any work that breaks the golden rule (OEM parts only). I've seen Nissan cut breaks for people out of their warranty by time or some various small things even if it's rare. But I've seen them stone wall on non oem parts for some of the simplest things.

 

[McLovin157]

Maybe 500 engine hp, not to the wheels. About 450 to the wheels. makes sense. E85 will get you closer. And it's about $4k in mods.

completely off topic from everything that's been discussed but do you like your 2022 Pathfinder. They are a freaking nightmare to get and when I get some money saved up that's what I wanna get for my wife. I love it and it fits what we need. Sense you have had it what do you think of the Pathfinder?

 

[FBD]

So after reading a very boring Warranty for the Infinity Q50 Red Sport here's what I've gathered.

“INFINITI’s New Vehicle Limited Warranty, and Limited Warranty on replacement parts do not apply to any parts other than genuine original equipment parts. INFINITI will not be responsible for any subsequent repair costs associated with a vehicle and/or part failure caused by the use of parts other than genuine replacement parts.”

So I would say it's the dealer that you work with that is warrantying your work and parts not Infinity/Nissan. Which is a great don't get me wrong that is awesome they would do that. But I don't see any way Infinity/Nissan would ever approve any work that breaks the golden rule (OEM parts only). I've seen Nissan cut breaks for people out of their warranty by time or some various small things even if it's rare. But I've seen them stone wall on non oem parts for some of the simplest things.

Enjoy Oklahoma. This has been going on for a very long time. Just not in your neck of the woods.

 

[FBD]

I wish it was that easy. Realistically it's 450whp with tune and a bunch of supporting bolt-ons. 480 - 500whp with E85 and fuel pump upgrades. Next stage, is injectors, bigger turbos etc, for 600 - 700whp

I will be finding out. I won't be going to that extent. I just want to remap and tune and boost the turbos to wake it up. The head of Service reported that it doesn't take much to really add a lot.

 

[McLovin157]

Enjoy Oklahoma. This has been going on for a very long time. Just not in your neck of the woods.

I promise I'm not trying to be a dick. It's just a weird situation is all.

 

[FBD]

Maybe 500 engine hp, not to the wheels. About 450 to the wheels. makes sense. E85 will get you closer. And it's about $4k in mods.

Check this one out. No bolt ons. This will be a game changer for a Z that is now turbocharged:

https://www.aamcompetition.com/shop...jbq89gIVvCCtBh0OtA0tEAAYASAAEgKtfPD_BwE#attr=

 

[McLovin157]

Check this one out. No bolt ons. This will be a game changer for a Z that is now turbocharged:

https://www.aamcompetition.com/shop...jbq89gIVvCCtBh0OtA0tEAAYASAAEgKtfPD_BwE#attr=

That’s for the 300HP Q50/Q60 not the red sport though. Correction I see it says 80HP gain on the red sport

 

[FBD]

That’s for the 300HP Q50/Q60 not the red sport though.

Read the whole description. It mentions the Red Sport in the description. The point is simple: Turbos can be boosted very conservatively and the extra hp wakes everything up. The added weight of the Z will not be a problem with this as an option.

 

[McLovin157]

It mentions the Red Sport in the description. The point is simple: Turbos can be boosted very conservatively and the extra hp wakes everything up. The added weight of the Z will not be a problem with this as an option.

i corrected my previous comment you was right an 80HP gain. Also 100% truth it’s always easy to make cheap power on turbo motors

 

[FBD]

i corrected my previous comment you was right an 80HP gain. Also 100% truth it’s always easy to make cheap power on turbo motors

Here's another description. It is a great time to be having a TT Z:

https://www.amsperformance.com/q60-premium-tune-unlocks-serious-power/

 

[Haste]

Here's another description. It is a great time to be having a TT Z:

https://www.amsperformance.com/q60-premium-tune-unlocks-serious-power/

No doubt. My guess is that your dealer meant it can handle 600 bhp reliably, not that a tune alone will get you there, but I wasn't there for that conversation ?‍. Here are AMS's stages and some real dyno results from the Q50 forum. The top 11 might be pushing 600 bhp but that may be a little too generous. Top 6 for sure.

https://www.infinitiq50.org/threads/official-dyno-results-thread.124379/

 

[FBD]

No doubt. My guess is that your dealer meant it can handle 600 bhp reliably, not that a tune alone will get you there, but I wasn't there for that conversation ?‍. Here are AMS's stages and some real dyno results from the Q50 forum. The top 11 might be pushing 600 bhp but that may be a little too generous. Top 6 for sure.

https://www.infinitiq50.org/threads/official-dyno-results-thread.124379/

Yes exactly. And thanks for this! You would not have to do much to really wake this engine up. It also needs an exhaust. I had the Invidia Titanium Gemini system (Blue tips) on the 370Z from new. I was just recently looking into Armytrix with the dual mode with the quiet neighbour mode. Compared to what I spent on the 370Z this is all very doable.

 

[DevonK]

You'd need a stomach for taking risk, though. Didn't Takemorepills find out from his dealer that the turbos on the red sport are subject to needing expensive work even functioning at stock levels?

 

[FBD]

You'd need a stomach for taking risk, though. Didn't Takemorepills find out from his dealer that the turbos on the red sport are subject to needing expensive work even functioning at stock levels?

You are very right. I'd be interested to see if the Z has corrected any of the design deficiencies of the Q50/60. The turbo paranoia was also a cause for anxiety for the Z32 300ZXTT as well.