General Ask a Nissan Salesman Thread

[BobDigi5060]

I use to sell cars. My boss use to tell me these customers aren't family or friends. No salesman wants to work for a $200 sale. We we're capped at $2,100 per sale and I've made around $1,800 off several sales. Do you know how I made that much?

Steering people in the wrong direction, low balling them on trades, not mentioning rebates (only honored if customer notices), and many other ways I forgot. My boss would describe this as "ripping their f*cking heads off". I saw the OP was a long one and I can't help but think the salesman is here to make money and help himself and not you. I lost so many customers due to terrible management and finance managers that I became all about securing the sale rather than screwing people as hard as I could.

I would not accept ADM and listen to me if you want to purchase new at the lowest price possible. I'll remind you all that I had the cheapest new 10r80 5.0 in the country shipped to my home. $5k below sticker I would take a salesman's advice with a grain of salt.

 

[BobDigi5060]

To start buy new January through April and when rebates are available. I'm on a short break from work, but I'll tell you everything I know. Don't buy a thing once in finance those people we're once the #1 salesman on the floor. They will be out of a job if they aren't upselling you GAP, maintenance packages, or forging signatures.

 

[jdm-rhd]

 

[ceric]

To start buy new January through April and when rebates are available. I'm on a short break from work, but I'll tell you everything I know. Don't buy a thing once in finance those people we're once the #1 salesman on the floor. They will be out of a job if they aren't upselling you GAP, maintenance packages, or forging signatures.

When I walked into finance guy's office, I always tell him/her. "I am not buying anything you want to sell me. Let us sign papers." Save him/her time and mine as well. Yes, he/she won't be happy, but as BobDigi5060 said, we aren't friends nor family....

 

[Orion]

My man I was about to post this...this is getting good lol.

 

[DanPYo]

Hence...

Surprised Recruiters aren't on there

 

[Blackbeard]

taking bets we never see this guy again lol

 

[Eric48]

I lost so many customers due to terrible management and finance managers

Don't buy a thing once in finance those people we're once the #1 salesman on the floor. They will be out of a job if they aren't upselling you GAP, maintenance packages, or forging signatures.

I 2nd, 3rd and 4th this. There are some slimy salespeople out there but also some solid ones. However I don't think I've ever dealt with anyone in finance who wasnt a scumbucket.

Anecdote time: This time last year I had just purchased my girlfriend a new Fit. I found the car I wanted online, made my appointment (covid) drove an hour and a half to get there. This car was probly the lowest priced new vehicle on the lot. They gave me a new kid. He had about 6 months under his belt before covid hit, and I was his 2nd customer on day 2 of his return from furlough. He was good. He tried to bullshit me about the Type-R they had on the sales floor, but didn't really try to upsell anything. I knew exactly what I wanted and all I needed was to verify the car was good. I was also ready to drop another couple grand on factory accessories, but his sales manager wouldn't come down on a pretty steep parts markup. I said fuck it I'll buy the parts online and have my local Honda install them. This is where things went south. My assigned sales rep got called into the finance office which was right across from where I was sitting and I watched the poor kid get screamed at for about 15 minutes straight. As a customer, I was satisfied with the treatment I received from the salesperson, even if we couldn't come to an agreement on the accessory parts. I can only surmise the dressdown he caught was because he didn't successfully press me. After that the finance guy snuck an extra $1400 on my balance which took two months and several phone calls with the GM and emails cc:d to Honda corporate to get rectified.

TL;DR - IME finance managers are scum and screwing over customers and even their own sales reps is the air they breath.

 

[JoeTX]

I don't think anyone want to talk to a salesman, we just want the car. we want to buy it at MSRP and don't get screwed over. If I can do everything online I would go ahead and do it but Nissan won't let us do this.

why should we buy from you? what make you different than others?

 

[Houston.RZ34]

Hey Shawn Welcome…sorry to throw you a curly straight up but….

I’ve seen you in Facebook, you had me convinced you were a nice guy until you said that you will be charging over sticker price and that dealers have no choice but to do so.

No other country feels the need to charge exorbitant rates, car shortages are a world wide problem, not just to the US …so I see no real reason to be doing this except greed.

if you can explain why you think it’s ok for dealers to take advantage of peoples desperation…please go ahead, I will probably still disagree, but I think it’s worth an open debate with those in the industry

I knew I liked you for a reason lol

 

[trackratZ]

This thread hurts! All this silence from Nissan is dumb. Shawn is that salesman from Orr Nissan that promised nothing over $5K on MSRP, will see about that, too much promises and only words for now, really.

 

[H2O_Doc]

Interesting to see how invested Americans are in their elected representatives lol.

People might (might) trust their own congressional member (if they voted for them), but they must trust everybody else’s. So, it’s a measure that maybe doesn’t say much. Albeit, it’s a measure that has changes over the last few decades and that probably does have some meaning.

 

[West Aussie]

This thread hurts! All this silence from Nissan is dumb. Shawn is that salesman from Orr Nissan that promised nothing over $5K on MSRP, will see about that, too much promises and only words for now, really.

Even 5k is too much. If Nissan thought it was worth 5k more, or that as a company they could make 5k more to help them get out of debt then they would of set the price at that.

For me it’s a moot point.
I’m an Aussie, so we don’t pay it…but if dealers want to come into a forum and say “ask me a question” they need to be ready for anything, and it is/was a genuine question
If it can’t be answerEd in an open conversation, well then he is just here to sell cars and not really here for open and honest discussion that might not always go in the expected direction.

We already know what the car looks like, what’s in it…we have Dan Passe on board that pops his head in whenever there are false claims, i could be wrong but feel we really don’t need a salesman here unless they are selling cars at msrp or a marginal increase, or offering a group discount . 5k on a 40k car is over ten percent of the original cost, and that’s not a small amount on a big purchase such as a car. For many it could be the amount that tips it into the unreachable area.

NO ONE knows pricing as of yet, or when deliveries drop.
So quite honestly I question why you would come in a forum and not expect to get grilled.

 

[H2O_Doc]

Hey Shawn Welcome…sorry to throw you a curly straight up but….

I’ve seen you in Facebook, you had me convinced you were a nice guy until you said that you will be charging over sticker price and that dealers have no choice but to do so.

No other country feels the need to charge exorbitant rates, car shortages are a world wide problem, not just to the US …so I see no real reason to be doing this except greed.

if you can explain why you think it’s ok for dealers to take advantage of peoples desperation…please go ahead, I will probably still disagree, but I think it’s worth an open debate with those in the industry

I won’t pay an adjusted market price, but I understand why it makes sense for a market good. I see corvettes ordered for $75-80k by customers being sold on the used market for $95-100k. Why should a dealership sell a vehicle on the lot to a consumer at below market rate and let that consumer pocket a big profit? Im a VERY pro-market-regulation guy, but even I see this as something for the market to price. I hate it; I won’t pay it, but I understand it.

 

[West Aussie]

I won’t pay an adjusted market price, but I understand why it makes sense for a market good. I see corvettes ordered for $75-80k by customers being sold on the used market for $95-100k. Why should a dealership sell a vehicle on the lot to a consumer at below market rate and let that consumer pocket a big profit? Im a VERY pro-market-regulation guy, but even I see this as something for the market to price. I hate it; I won’t pay it, but I understand it.

But your missing the point….if ALL dealers didn’t mark up then it wouldn’t be accepted, and therefor even privately people would not pay outrageous prices, because they could order and wait for a car to come in 25k cheaper.

A Nissan dealer in Aus told me that the Z is the first car they have even asked for a deposit for, because in the past onselling just didn’t happen. The deposit is geared to stop people taking a risk and purchasing a car for the purpose of on selling.
it’s just not a part of our car market, because it hasn’t been allowed to be