Trading in for a Nismo Manual??

[traska_rz34]

Naw. I'm faster than the Nismo so no

This is me! Already faster than a Nismo Z with better colors.

 

[PDX_Racer]

To the guy that money shifted his Z, who taught you to drive?

I've got multiple regional championships, many in my old 350Z as well as the BRZ that replaced it. I've trophied nationally at multiple SCCA National Tour, SCCA ProSolo, and the SCCA Solo National Championships, and have time in open wheel cars at Laguna Seca and Sears Point. I probably have more seat time in multiple cars than you do.

As far as the "money shift," that was in a right hand turn at the National Championships where I didn't expect to hit the top of the current gear in the middle of the turn. I realized what I had done and had the clutch in before any major damage was done. That was also the event-and run-that earned me a trophy nationally. I just made a mistake, but I was still able to drive the car 2,000 mile home after that event.

So, be careful about pointing out others' mistakes-not everyone is as forgiving as I.

 

[trackratZ]

I've got multiple regional championships, many in my old 350Z as well as the BRZ that replaced it. I've trophied nationally at multiple SCCA National Tour, SCCA ProSolo, and the SCCA Solo National Championships, and have time in open wheel cars at Laguna Seca and Sears Point. I probably have more seat time in multiple cars than you do.

As far as the "money shift," that was in a right hand turn at the National Championships where I didn't expect to hit the top of the current gear in the middle of the turn. I realized what I had done and had the clutch in before any major damage was done. That was also the event-and run-that earned me a trophy nationally. I just made a mistake, but I was still able to drive the car 2,000 mile home after that event.

So, be careful about pointing out others' mistakes-not everyone is as forgiving as I.

Agree, that was a cheap shot, no class.

Happens to a lot of us with track experience. I was at Auto Club Speedway years ago coming off 4th gear on a 90 deg turn, grabbing 3rd BUT got 1st instead. The STi spun right away too late even when depressing the clutch immediately. That was fun!!

 

[chadhunley]

I've pretty much decided that I will keep the current Nismo since it checks all the boxes for me. I'm contemplating doing something even more impractical like buying a 90s classic, 3000 GT or a Stealth.

 

[PDX_Racer]

I've pretty much decided that I will keep the current Nismo since it checks all the boxes for me. I'm contemplating doing something even more impractical like buying a 90s classic, 3000 GT or a Stealth.

A Stealth/3000GT are a blast to drive-totally impractical, but fun.

 

[Lvckv99]

This is me! Already faster than a Nismo Z with better colors.

Exactly. I even had a guy who thought my Z was the nismo

 

[CPerdomo]

I'm still undecided on whether or not I'll be moving from my '24 NISMO AT to a '2? NISMO MT. Been a manual guy my entire driving life, so of course originally wanted the NISMO in MT when first purchasing, but the problem is that if the NISMO AT wasn't already so damn fun, compelling, and versatile it would certainly make this decision a helluva lot easier if/when the NISMO MT is introduced. The good news is it appears I'll have plenty of time to still think it over.

That's exactly the position I find myself in...

 

[trackratZ]

Now I wonder if the Nismos and other trim all fall into this, plus higher pricing

https://www.jalopnik.com/2035461/nissan-z-going-build-to-order/

 

[bpeckham]

Now I wonder if the Nismos and other trim all fall into this, plus higher pricing

https://www.jalopnik.com/2035461/nissan-z-going-build-to-order/

About freaking time. It's not a Sentra after all. Let's see how this evolves.

 

[aknoz]

It's still in my mind....to trade in my Performance Manual when the Nismo comes out, and the fact we don't know how long the Nismo Manual will be in production in today's (Nissan's) troubled times. I'm still at 1300 miles, lower miles the better for a trade in I suppose. Then again, pricing of the Manual may be at the mercy of dealers, again!!!

Who's also thinking in the same direction? The last 'analog' Nismo Manual. Hmmm

If I were u, I would not take a bath in trading auto for manual nismo.

Z manual transmission feel and engagement does not feel solid and positive like gr Corolla, civic type r.

If u don't know what I am talking about go test drive them.

 

[heritageownerKurosawaz400]

If I were u, I would not take a bath in trading auto for manual nismo.

Z manual transmission feel and engagement does not feel solid and positive like gr Corolla, civic type r.

If u don't kno what I am talking about go test drive them.

I don't know man, I've driven the GR86, C6 corvette, Nd1 and Nd3 miata, and the Z's mechanical jitter is really the sauce. Downshifting into 2nd gear or revving the top of 3rd and shifting is too good. And the Z's felt really really mechanical, even more so than the 370z Nismo manual I drove. Also quick little Fyi, Nismo is more than a name for the Z's and really Nissan's performance division, check out the 350z forums, a lot tend to agree that a modified Nismo is "better" than a modified Base; obviously if there are constraints make do with what you have. But coming from a guy who has both and regularly drives them to the point I have a combined 30k miles in them, the Nismo manual will really be where it's at, the turn in, the steering response, the steering feel is already to die for in the Nismo. And the Nismo get's goodies like stiffer transmission mount and engine mounts from factory things that a seasoned track veteran should understand the importance of. Just driving the Nismo there is significantly less wheel hop and not much disconnect between shifts, often times in my Z sport over a rough part of road, if I try to shift it almost feels disconnected or peculiar. The Z is a very modifiable car, but let's not pretend like Nismo didn't engineer the car to also be better; the car is almost 3% more rigid, in the automotive world even a 1% difference is enough to justify a tiny 4 cylinder turbo vs a v6. 3% different keeps your caster angle in check, your mid corner usability of the tire in check, or even the suspension slop. But sadly with Nismo's changes, the car is only as good as the driver, to a huge extent. A great driver will visibly notice the differences immediately, while a more so amateur or or casual driver might say it's the "same car" in retrospec to the "lower models" and then blame it on alignment or something along those lines. From my own personal experience, whenever I drive my Nismo, I dare say it feels more engaging then my Z Sport with a 6 speed really. If I feel that way after driving manual cars and driving the wheels off my current Z, then I'm sure Nissan and more so Nismo have done something right. Obviously if I get the chance- test driving is what's really important, but I have really high hopes it'll be exactly what people and what I want. Also if ever, if a track instructor were to choose between a Nismo and performance/sport Z, I'm 1,000,000%; for how they are, for how they feel, and from the factory without needing 100 different mods. I'm sure that they'll choose the Nismo over for the purposes it was intended for.

Sources : https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/8-things-nissan-changed-for-the-new-z-nismo/

 

[50thZ]

If I were u, I would not take a bath in trading auto for manual nismo.

Z manual transmission feel and engagement does not feel solid and positive like gr Corolla, civic type r.

If u don't kno what I am talking about go test drive them.

Or trade for manual MX5. Less power tons of fun

 

[trackratZ]

I don't know man, I've driven the GR86, C6 corvette, Nd1 and Nd3 miata, and the Z's mechanical jitter is really the sauce. Downshifting into 2nd gear or revving the top of 3rd and shifting is too good. And the Z's felt really really mechanical, even more so than the 370z Nismo manual I drove. Also quick little Fyi, Nismo is more than a name for the Z's and really Nissan's performance division, check out the 350z forums, a lot tend to agree that a modified Nismo is "better" than a modified Base; obviously if there are constraints make do with what you have. But coming from a guy who has both and regularly drives them to the point I have a combined 30k miles in them, the Nismo manual will really be where it's at, the turn in, the steering response, the steering feel is already to die for in the Nismo. And the Nismo get's goodies like stiffer transmission mount and engine mounts from factory things that a seasoned track veteran should understand the importance of. Just driving the Nismo there is significantly less wheel hop and not much disconnect between shifts, often times in my Z sport over a rough part of road, if I try to shift it almost feels disconnected or peculiar. The Z is a very modifiable car, but let's not pretend like Nismo didn't engineer the car to also be better; the car is almost 3% more rigid, in the automotive world even a 1% difference is enough to justify a tiny 4 cylinder turbo vs a v6. 3% different keeps your caster angle in check, your mid corner usability of the tire in check, or even the suspension slop. But sadly with Nismo's changes, the car is only as good as the driver, to a huge extent. A great driver will visibly notice the differences immediately, while a more so amateur or or casual driver might say it's the "same car" in retrospec to the "lower models" and then blame it on alignment or something along those lines. From my own personal experience, whenever I drive my Nismo, I dare say it feels more engaging then my Z Sport with a 6 speed really. If I feel that way after driving manual cars and driving the wheels off my current Z, then I'm sure Nissan and more so Nismo have done something right. Obviously if I get the chance- test driving is what's really important, but I have really high hopes it'll be exactly what people and what I want. Also if ever, if a track instructor were to choose between a Nismo and performance/sport Z, I'm 1,000,000%; for how they are, for how they feel, and from the factory without needing 100 different mods. I'm sure that they'll choose the Nismo over for the purposes it was intended for.

Or trade for manual MX5. Less power tons of fun

Or have both, MX5s are cheap fun, two different animalsI’m not selling either of them.

 

[Modfather]

Or have both, MX5s are cheap fun, two different animalsI’m not selling either of them.

i traded an ND club for my Z Nismo, lol.

i struggle with the manual transmission thing, in the moment i miss rowing through gears but when i'm actually driving the nismo that goes away with it in sport+ manual mode. It is very engaging to drive.

The car was built to be highly modified also I think, you see guys with 700+bhp skylines dropping in sequential transmissions to shift faster - nismo gave us a usable fast shifting transmission that has already been shown to take the power. Its a solid platform to build on in the years to come.

I will probably add something to the fleet down the road that gives me a manual transmission again though, just have to keep telling myself i have enough cars and to be content . I really don't want to trade in for a manual because i will loose a bunch money with the depreciation

 

[Totka]

I am certain I will get the manual. Just a question of when. My thoughts as of now are to sell my 370 nismo and keep the '24 nismo auto.