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What will stop you from owning the new Z?

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Is direct injection a problem with the VR30? Is walnut blasting necessary for long term reliability? I don't think my 04 STi was direct injection. Sometimes I want a DI turbo car and sometimes I'm not sure!
The VR30DDTT has a bigger problem with needing the engine removed to service faulty turbos than carbon buildup.
 

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More than $45k I won't pull the trigger . If this car ends up practically $50k , it's not worth it . Only way I would ever pay 50k for a Nissan would be for a used GT-R
Rumours are coming out in Aus that the performance trim may be as high as 89k ….if that happens they will see their reservation list shrink substantially
 

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Rumours are coming out in Aus that the performance trim may be as high as 89k ….if that happens they will see their reservation list shrink substantially
Now they're just getting greedy . It is literally just a 370Z with a better engine , improved interior , and new body panels
 

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Now they're just getting greedy . It is literally just a 370Z with a better engine , improved interior , and new body panels
We were expecting 70 maybe 80k for the Proto…which sounds huge to you guys but after exchange rates, taxes etc is about right….but 89 for performance trim, they will have an uphill battle
The Supra GT is around 97k new drive away, so still undercuts it….but still dint think it will go down well
 

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More than $45k I won't pull the trigger . If this car ends up practically $50k , it's not worth it . Only way I would ever pay 50k for a Nissan would be for a used GT-R
Yeah, if the Performance is anywhere close to $50k, no way I'm getting it. I'd consider the $40k Sport model though and look into aftermarket LSD, brakes, etc.
 

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I wish they'd announce prices immediately just to bring the seemingly endless and repetitive speculations about pricing here to a screeching halt....
I think I have figured out their tactics…at least in the Aus/ Canadian market.
generate as much interest as possible, open orders…fill orders plus more, making sure there is a deposited, which although is refundable makes it harder for those who have fallen in love to revoke said order.
Depending on the amount placing orders (and in Aus it’s high) set price accordingly..if they lose half their orders, they don’t care because they have enough interest to fill that half again.
They will release the price a few weeks to a month before …again making it harder to pull out as everyone will be excited that the release is just around the corner

However I think they are pushing their luck and could lose way more than what they think they will….and it could backfire royally
 

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I think I have figured out their tactics…at least in the Aus/ Canadian market.
generate as much interest as possible, open orders…fill orders plus more, making sure there is a deposited, which although is refundable makes it harder for those who have fallen in love to revoke said order.
Depending on the amount placing orders (and in Aus it’s high) set price accordingly..if they lose half their orders, they don’t care because they have enough interest to fill that half again.
They will release the price a few weeks to a month before …again making it harder to pull out as everyone will be excited that the release is just around the corner

However I think they are pushing their luck and could lose way more than what they think they will….and it could backfire royally
Would this be a first, as a marketing tactic, from any brand? I can’t think of any that’ve done this before.
 

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I'll just add that the Q60 Red Sport is obscenely expensive. Of course it has rear seats, leather, sunroof and can be had with AWD, but they begin at low 60's, which in the market space they occupy is a heavy price compared to the competition.
 

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Yeah, if the Performance is anywhere close to $50k, no way I'm getting it. I'd consider the $40k Sport model though and look into aftermarket LSD, brakes, etc.
Price vs demand will be a key factor in this climate.

Let's say given the conditions, Nissan is forecasting a 10,000 unit production for the given time period. But Nissan forecasts demand at 20,000 units. Nissan can start with a higher price, and not a big problem if they lose 10,000 sales, if they couldn't produce those 10,000 units anyway.

And Nissan won't be stuck out on a future island by having an earlier higher price, due to predicted inflation. Nissan can hold the line as overall prices catch up, or ride up further as needed.

Overall, doesn't seem a recipe for economy buyers, but will see ...
 

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Y'all predicting Z pricing should read up on the pricing history of the Z32. The Z32 inflated so much that the final twin turbo pricing was in the low 40's, in 1996!
 

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If the ADM is as out of hand as I'm expecting, I'm just gonna track down a ZX and make it a project car (which seems more and more appealing as a first option as Nissan keeps playing their games).
 

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The only thing keeping me from owning a new Z is if Mazda brings an RX9 to market, which is highly unlikely at this time.

In terms of what I'm willing to pay, I'll go up to $65k plus $5k ADM for a Nismo model, but that's my limit. The Nismo needs to be pretty compelling though, and offer quite a bit more than the non Nismo trims. I'm willing to go this high as this will obviously be the last pure ICE Z, so I think it's worth it from that perspective.
 
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