Want a 400Z to modify, should I start with NISMO?

[Zplz]

You were almost there! lol Sport is capped at 135 mph…

No problem for me, since I’m just on public highways and not really interested in seeing flashing lights behind me or robbing banks to pay for insurance premiums.

 

[d4rkg04t]

Point of interest...

I read some where that the new MT for the Nismo got upgraded/reinforced. That it is not the same gear-box as the one in the 2027 Sport/Performance trims. I tried to locate the article to reference it, but no joy so far. Perhaps someone else read about it. If so, please validate the source and link the reference. If that's the case, then the upgraded tranny may change the value ($$$) equation. I'll keep looking for the article since may consider a 2028 Nismo MT myself. Also want to study the 2027 Nismo owners' comments/reviews, once they start to post.

Be well,

I read that, too! That's why I was inquiring to the various weakpoints of the platform. I'm going MT regardless so that's either a '27 Nismo that I'll mod day 1 or a '25 Performance w/ MT that I'll apparently need to drop the tranny and ship it off to be upgraded.

 

[kevinbonds]

re the car is in the shop. Kevin Bonds is my hero.
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I read that, too! That's why I was inquiring to the various weakpoints of the platform. I'm going MT regardless so that's either a '27 Nismo that I'll mod day 1 or a '25 Performance w/ MT that I'll apparently need to drop the tranny and ship it off to be upgraded.

You won't have an issue with the 6 MT, the only issue would be the clutch if you end up upgrading the turbo's but that's normal on any car. In my opinion, unless you want to go nuts, these cars do very well without upgrading the turbos, which means you should not need to do anything with the trans or clutch. You can make a very reliable 430-450 HP and TQ to the wheels on these cars with some bolt-ones and a tune.

 

[Katum68]

This is what I did plus carbon Fiber goodies:

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[Howdog70]

Here was my path: test-drove 25 performance MT, bought 24 nismo, sold 24 and bought 27 Nismo MT. You seem to know what you want. I suggest test-driving them all and seeing which one speaks to you the most. The sport and performance are a better value if you plan to modify a lot, but you may really like the looks and feel of the Nismo to start there. Nismo Nick is our Z hero. I bought both cars from him in AZ and drove them back to L.A. The New Z FB page is something you may want to check out, too. Good luck!

 

[VR30Z6spd]

whether its regular Z or nismo. if you will do full bolt ons, the results will be the same in terms or power output

go with a performance model if the price is good. save for mods, because bolts on will get real boring quick.

around 600+ rwhp is perfect

 

[280driver]

I certainly don’t want to get banned or loose cool points with you but if you want to enter the world of a Z enthusiast, you should at least understand why/how the cars are named in the US. The number has always indicated the engine displacement. Simple. The 400Z thing came from people that didn’t understand this and thought the number would be horse-power based. There are a few theories as to why there’s not a number used for the current gen but no one knows for sure. Now you’re all caught up and can build the baddest whatever you want to call it Z out there!

 

[trackratZ]

Hey, I'm kind of falling in love with the new Z and I am thinking about getting a 2027 Nismo with stick.

I'm sure this is the best place to get some straight answers before I cut a check that may or may not have to be for $80k.

I know the Nismo option cleans up nearly all of the complaints about the platform's handling/braking, but if you price it out with all Nismo upgrades it rivals what I paid for my current toy.

Is it worth grabbing a sport edition instead, with manual, then going FBO, upgraded fuel, slightly upsized turbos (to prevent power drop off up top only), upgrading cooling, and a full aftermarket suspension upgrade? Or will that end up costing way more than just snagging a Nismo with all factory upgrades and then doing a turbo upsize and tune?

Also, what are the weakpoints of the engine and transmission and well the whole drivetrain, if I should I decide to go balls deep with power later?

Coming in ignorant here. Would greatly appreciate any input.

You're ultimate goal is FBO plus other mods anyway. There are way better aftermarket than what the Nismo offers, especially starting with $70+K entry point, ouch. Get a slightly used or new Performance MT bargained off the dealer lot and you're way ahead of the game. Then you can upgrade with brands you choose and enjoy it along the way. Looks like your purpose is not to get a manual Nismo to baby and hoping to flip later for $$ if that ever happens, rather to plan on modding it.

And yep, it's just a 'Z' with the RZ34 chassis designation. Good luck looking forward to your build. Lots of good approaches in this forum!

 

[Hernandooo]

I certainly don’t want to get banned or loose cool points with you but if you want to enter the world of a Z enthusiast, you should at least understand why/how the cars are named in the US. The number has always indicated the engine displacement. Simple. The 400Z thing came from people that didn’t understand this and thought the number would be horse-power based. There are a few theories as to why there’s not a number used for the current gen but no one knows for sure. Now you’re all caught up and can build the baddest whatever you want to call it Z out there!

If nissan kept going number based, this car would be called the 300Zx, and I don't think people would like that

 

[Katum68]

300ZX Twin Turbo MK II

 

[Hernandooo]

300ZX Twin Turbo MK II

Mk iii

 

[d4rkg04t]

Looks like your purpose is not to get a manual Nismo to baby and hoping to flip later for $$ if that ever happens, rather to plan on modding it.

Appreciate your input! You are correct. My plan is to beat the shizzle out of it whenever I have free time, hence the questions about weakpoints on the platform.

 

[d4rkg04t]

This is what I did plus carbon Fiber goodies:

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These are really good numbers. Race any Mustang GTs? Not the crappy 3V, but like the S550s?

 

[d4rkg04t]

whether its regular Z or nismo. if you will do full bolt ons, the results will be the same in terms or power output

go with a performance model if the price is good. save for mods, because bolts on will get real boring quick.

around 600+ rwhp is perfect

I'm not sure how far I want to take the power yet, but yeah, 600rwhp is more than enough to have some fun. Not trying to rival what's already in my garage else I recreate the same problem again with having something a bit too fast to act the fool with in town.

 

[d4rkg04t]

I certainly don’t want to get banned or loose cool points with you but if you want to enter the world of a Z enthusiast, you should at least understand why/how the cars are named in the US. The number has always indicated the engine displacement. Simple. The 400Z thing came from people that didn’t understand this and thought the number would be horse-power based. There are a few theories as to why there’s not a number used for the current gen but no one knows for sure. Now you’re all caught up and can build the baddest whatever you want to call it Z out there!

That's a lot more helpful than the other guy who replied with "What's a 400Z?" instead of addressing the content of my post. I'm aware it's not called officially called a 400Z. What I wasn't aware of is how intense Z fans are about it. I'll be referring to it by RZ34 or just Z as instructed. hehe