HKS Hypermax R or Silver's Neomax coilovers

[Thefunk]

I'm trying to decide which to purchase. I've been on the track once so far with the stock suspension but with Stillen sway bars and Z1 endlinks. Side to side body roll is barely there but front back still exists and the car is still very bouncy on the track. HKS is the premium setup about $2500 but the Neomax coilovers with swift coils will run me about $1900. I'm wondering if spending the extra $$$ is worth it. I do drive my car around town most of the time but track days are on the forecast indefinitely.

 

[Evolution]

Neither of your choices are really track oriented coilovers. They are more of a "street" style. If you plan on tracking the car a lot, I would go with something a bit better, like Fortune Auto 510s.

 

[Thefunk]

Neither of your choices are really track oriented coilovers. They are more of a "street" style. If you plan on tracking the car a lot, I would go with something a bit better, like Fortune Auto 510s.

But they're track capable right? Stiffer than stock, adjustable damper and height is what I want. But I will take a look at those 510s

 

[Hubert]

What is the group's choice between:
a) HKS Hypermax R
b) KW V3
c) NISMO coilovers
d) Tein coilovers

 

[Evolution]

But they're track capable right? Stiffer than stock, adjustable damper and height is what I want. But I will take a look at those 510s

Depends what your definition of "track capable" is. Yes you can drive them on the track. But if you use the rumble strips, my bet is they bottom out super easy and maybe bounce instead of soak it up. The spring rates will be stiffer than stock but not adequate for the track.

I personally run Ohlins on my track car (not a Z) and they work great for both the track and street. Honestly think it rides better on the streets than it did stock. However, they are in the $3500 range. When it comes to coilovers, you really do get what you pay for, in terms of quality and how they ride.

 

[JDM Z]

HKS Hipermax R is definitely worth the money, they have revised so many little details and lots of new technology has been put into this R coilover. It is not that stiff for daily driving, but definitely much stiffer then stock. HKS has claimed it to be the "All Arounder", capable of daily & track.

 

[Thefunk]

What is the group's choice between:
a) HKS Hypermax R
b) KW V3
c) NISMO coilovers
d) Tein coilovers

The NISMO coilovers aren't true coilovers in the rear. They still use the control arm bucket.

 

[Thefunk]

Depends what your definition of "track capable" is. Yes you can drive them on the track. But if you use the rumble strips, my bet is they bottom out super easy and maybe bounce instead of soak it up. The spring rates will be stiffer than stock but not adequate for the track.

I personally run Ohlins on my track car (not a Z) and they work great for both the track and street. Honestly think it rides better on the streets than it did stock. However, they are in the $3500 range. When it comes to coilovers, you really do get what you pay for, in terms of quality and how they ride.

Honestly I'm trying to find the best balance between track and street like 60 track 40 street or vice versa. I'm to new to motorsports. As of now and foreseeable future I don't want to convert my Z to a dedicated track car but want to be able to have confidence on the track. When I was at Lime Rock the sway bars helped so much but the car still had front to back roll and was bouncy.

 

[JonnyG]

Wondering - does the the car have wheel hop on launch.

I too will be looking for a coilover but don't want my kidneys falling out - the sag I've seen of the stock suspension from pics from other posters is scary. I am suprised it doesn't have a street, sport and track selection from factory.

 

[Murix]

Depends what your definition of "track capable" is. Yes you can drive them on the track. But if you use the rumble strips, my bet is they bottom out super easy and maybe bounce instead of soak it up. The spring rates will be stiffer than stock but not adequate for the track.

I personally run Ohlins on my track car (not a Z) and they work great for both the track and street. Honestly think it rides better on the streets than it did stock. However, they are in the $3500 range. When it comes to coilovers, you really do get what you pay for, in terms of quality and how they ride.

This is well said. I would opt for springs over cheap coilovers, In particular swift springs.

I am looking at a set of Ohlins for the Z if I do anything at all. I have a local shop that builds custom ohlins and did the work for my other car.

 

[Thefunk]

I forgot to mention that I have a quote from Silver's for the Neomax true coilovers with swift coils. I just saw a yt vid where someone installed neomax coilovers but in the rear he put the spring into the control arm bucket instead of installing them normally. I'm confused.

 

[D2M]

Most coilover companies offer a "true coilover " for the rear or oem style rear. Its an option where you can retain the stock spring location or have the spring on the shock.

If you are new to track driving any of the choices above will be a MASSIVE upgrade over stock. Always err on the softer side especially if you are running a 300/200 tw tire. I would stay away from the HKS R for the RZ34, the spring rates a crazy stiff at 22/26k thats insane. they are for a R compound tire and a aggressive driver, you not ready for that.

Silvers would be a great option for you as the don't have hard upper joints and will be great to drive on the road as well. Their spring rates are pretty good at 14/10k.

As far as HKS you can go wit the Hiper S (12/11k) for the RZ34 or the Hiper R for the 370Z (16/18K )they are a bit softer but still too stiff imo.

Fortune auto is a great choice as well, only thing they are 2 months to build with custom rates.

So far Silvers 2 way is at the top of my list for my Nismo, Good spring rates, no hard joints, dyno tested and a great price. Stay away from 2 way if you are new to suspension, just get one knob, it will make it easy to adjust, stiffer or softer = simple.

 

[Thefunk]

Most coilover companies offer a "true coilover " for the rear or oem style rear. Its an option where you can retain the stock spring location or have the spring on the shock.

If you are new to track driving any of the choices above will be a MASSIVE upgrade over stock. Always err on the softer side especially if you are running a 300/200 tw tire. I would stay away from the HKS R for the RZ34, the spring rates a crazy stiff at 22/26k thats insane. they are for a R compound tire and a aggressive driver, you not ready for that.

Silvers would be a great option for you as the don't have hard upper joints and will be great to drive on the road as well. Their spring rates are pretty good at 14/10k.

As far as HKS you can go wit the Hiper S (12/11k) for the RZ34 or the Hiper R for the 370Z (16/18K )they are a bit softer but still too stiff imo.

Fortune auto is a great choice as well, only thing they are 2 months to build with custom rates.

So far Silvers 2 way is at the top of my list for my Nismo, Good spring rates, no hard joints, dyno tested and a great price. Stay away from 2 way if you are new to suspension, just get one knob, it will make it easy to adjust, stiffer or softer = simple.

Yeah I wasn't looking for fine tunable suspension. Once I saw the height and single damper adjustment on the Neomax I was sold. Just wanted to some pointers and recommendations from others. I drive this car to work so I don't want to be flailing around in the car. I recorded my first track day with just sway bars and endlinks upgraded. In the video I saw the only thing moving in the car was me and the phone charger cable. That's how much more stuff the car became. Not complaining tho, lots of fun. Just didn't feel confident on high speed turns especially during braking. The car is too bouncy at stock.

 

[Thefunk]

In terms of quality though, are the Neomax coilovers low quality since they're on the "cheaper" side? What should I expect from low quality coilovers? Will they break or fail? Or not working properly?

 

[Murix]

They won't break. It is just that some work better than others in things like damping rates and having a better spectrum in adjustability. I have experience with KW and Ohlins with success. I cannot speak to the others so won't comment on their quality. It could be great for all I know.

But I still believe being new you will get what you need from a set of $300 springs on the stock dampers. Less time fiddling with damping rates and more time driving.

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