General Ask a Nissan Salesman Thread

[McLovin157]

that would be ideal cause its less probs between dealers and clients

It would just be nice to be upfront with everyone. I can have the conversation of "I understand you are excited for the new Z I am to but Nissan is only send us X number of cars and unfortunately your number X on the list." I don't however want to have the conversation "Nissan generally said it's open season on the Z and I'm going to try and put in triple over time to take care of you and everyone else."

Deep down we all know the Z launch is going to be small and limited in terms of launch numbers.

 

[siggy]

First of all there ARE big problems with offering up contracts online, contracts are private between buyer and seller, not to be handed out like lollies in a forum
Second of all he doesn’t have to prove anything to you, believe him if you want dont if you don’t want too
i don’t understand why anyone would want to be ripped off, but it seems as though your up for it.

Yes there are people on here discussing other cars, none of them are dealers for other car manufacturers.
I know if I went on a forum talking up a different product to what my company sells, and saying I’m going to buy it over what the company I work for sells, I wouldn’t have a job for very long…or at the very least would be hauled over the coals, something which I would try to avoid.

you have no intention of buying a Subaru…if you did PM him you’d probably get an answer
Ill leave it there, I’m not getting into a heated debate, only to say believe what you want, pretty much calling someone a liar with no evidence is not cool in my book

Sounds like I struck a nerve! I never implied anyone was a liar. Again, you read into that. So a NISSAN salesperson can start a thread, be subsequently called out by a SUBARU saleperson, and I can't ask a question or two? Oh shucks!

And I wasn't going to ask for the full contract - just the bottom lines with the figures. All of that language is boiler plate - i.e. it's not sacred. You really need to educate yourself on U.S. laws, or simply not speak to it. U.S. dealers are allowed to charge ADM's. There is nothing illegal about it so get over it.

What do you mean I'm up for being ripped off? I don't even know how to debate with you, and I do a lot of debating. I suppose that tells you something. I'll let you make more assumptions on that

Welcome to the internet.

 

[West Aussie]

Sounds like I struck a nerve! I never implied anyone was a liar. Again, you read into that. So a NISSAN salesperson can start a thread, be subsequently called out by a SUBARU saleperson, and I can't ask a question or two? Oh shucks!

And I wasn't going to ask for the full contract - just the bottom lines with the figures. All of that language is boiler plate - i.e. it's not sacred. You really need to educate yourself on U.S. laws, or simply not speak to it. U.S. dealers are allowed to charge ADM's. There is nothing illegal about it so get over it.

What do you mean I'm up for being ripped off? I don't even know how to debate with you, and I do a lot of debating. I suppose that tells you something. I'll let you make more assumptions on that

Welcome to the internet.

Most people understood what I was saying, so maybe that says a lot as well

I’ll leave it there

 

[Dan Cohen]

If you do work at a dealer as a GSM then your well aware of why almost all dealers are charging over MSRP. I know it's buried in this thread but the logically reasonings for prices being REASONABLE are listed within. I will never claim you can't sell for MSRP but even "large volume" dealers don't have cars and the bottom line is lowering for everyone. I'm very happy to say I have an incredibly high satisfaction score and it is always a pleasure to work with the individuals I do. There is more to buying a car than money which I assume you are well aware of. The average mark up in my area is 2-10k for traditional models and we keep our prices incredibly competitive. In 36 years of dealing in cars you should be aware that of that.

Yes I am aware there is more to selling a car than money.....Exactly why we do not charge over MSRP....GET IT?........We look to long time relationships with our customers. So every time you sell to one of your customers and they get in their car everyday they will always remember they paid too much for their new car. So next time see if they come back to you! Do not care about the supply and demand, and do not care if everyone is over MSRP. We are not and we continue to write orders everyday. So until supply chain catches up we will have every car on every allocation sold for the next months to come no matter how long it takes.

 

[McLovin157]

Yes I am aware there is more to selling a car than money.....Exactly why we do not charge over MSRP....GET IT?........We look to long time relationships with our customers. So every time you sell to one of your customers and they get in their car everyday they will always remember they paid too much for their new car. So next time see if they come back to you! Do not care about the supply and demand, and do not care if everyone is over MSRP. We are not and we continue to write orders everyday. So until supply chain catches up we will have every car on every allocation sold for the next months to come no matter how long it takes.

You can keep your customers happy while keeping your bottom line intact. There is a drastic difference in making money and stealing. They also do remember what they spent on a car but you know what they remember more, the experience they had with you. If you present a fair deal and provide an unparalleled experience people continue to do business with you. There are a multitude of avenues to keep revenue flow in a dealership so you can continue to sell at MSRP. Our model isn't set up that way so we work with a fair market adjustment that isn't predatory and provide amazing services. Plus working with me is the biggest bonus!

 

[Dan Cohen]

You can keep your customers happy while keeping your bottom line intact. There is a drastic difference in making money and stealing. They also do remember what they spent on a car but you know what they remember more, the experience they had with you. If you present a fair deal and provide an unparalleled experience people continue to do business with you. There are a multitude of avenues to keep revenue flow in a dealership so you can continue to sell at MSRP. Our model isn't set up that way so we work with a fair market adjustment that isn't predatory and provide amazing services. Plus working with me is the biggest bonus!

Ok I hope that was a sarcastic remark about the biggest bonus. If not then yea ok.....you go with that........And yea ok they will remember the experience they had with you like the one where you charged them way too much for a car.

 

[Donalex]

In a typical store during typical times, new cars were about fourth in the tier of profit-making as new cars are basically commodities.

With that, the typical store made a profit every year.

So, in these times, how dealers treat their car-buying customers is way more telling of the morality amongst the ownership and management.

Most consumers will remember these stupid markups and it'll be reflected in a longer ownership of the current car and/or where they go for their next one.

 

[McLovin157]

In a typical store during typical times, new cars were about fourth in the tier of profit-making as new cars are basically commodities.

With that, the typical store made a profit every year.

So, in these times, how dealers treat their car-buying customers is way more telling of the morality amongst the ownership and management.

Most consumers will remember these stupid markups and it'll be reflected in a longer ownership of the current car and/or where they go for their next one.

it was never really the cars that made the actual money it was all the services, adds, etc. that contributed to the profits in the car. Sell a $2500 dollar warranty, addons, whatever and a car that was losing money may now make a grand. Just can't really do that right now for most. I again will say that there is a difference between proper marketing and theft but for some it's in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Dan Cohen]

In a typical store during typical times, new cars were about fourth in the tier of profit-making as new cars are basically commodities.

With that, the typical store made a profit every year.

So, in these times, how dealers treat their car-buying customers is way more telling of the morality amongst the ownership and management.

Most consumers will remember these stupid markups and it'll be reflected in a longer ownership of the current car and/or where they go for their next one.

CORRECT.......EXACTLY.........WELL PUT...........THERE YA GO....PERFECT

 

[fliplover]

Back in December 2020, the day after my wife's Rogue was totaled by a red light runner, we were able to purchase a replacement '21 Rogue at MSRP, despite the stock shortages. The dealer could have asked for ADM, especially knowing we were in a bind and needed an immediate replacement, but they didn't. This is one of the major reasons I'm planning on buying my new Z from them.

My experience with this dealer was most refresing after a larger dealer group in Northeast Georgia screwed us over after a lease turn in. In fact, on my wife's previous Rogue, the smaller dealer included a "we hate 'X' dealership" discount of several thousand dollars even though we had no intension fo going back to the larger a**hole dealership in question.

 

[McLovin157]

Back in December 2020, the day after my wife's Rogue was totaled by a red light runner, we were able to purchase a replacement '21 Rogue at MSRP, despite the stock shortages. The dealer could have asked for ADM, especially knowing we were in a bind and needed an immediate replacement, but they didn't. This is one of the major reasons I'm planning on buying my new Z from them.

My experience with this dealer was most refresing after a larger dealer group in Northeast Georgia screwed us over after a lease turn in. In fact, on my wife's previous Rogue, the smaller dealer included a "we hate 'X' dealership" discount of several thousand dollars even though we had no intension fo going back to the larger a**hole dealership in question.

We have done that before ?. People come in fucked 7 ways to Sunday from a dealer that’s down the street from us. Get them set up right and boom got a customer for life.

 

[takemorepills]

We have done that before ?. People come in fucked 7 ways to Sunday from a dealer that’s down the street from us. Get them set up right and boom got a customer for life.

So, I bought my wife a new Toyota right before the pandemic hit, 12/2019. There's 5 Toyota dealerships in a "reasonable" area near us. 4 of them were horrible. The dealership we went with, and more specifically the salesman I worked with was excellent. Being that I used to work in dealerships, I have zero patience for games. I'm always up front about my expectations and this salesman gave me exactly zero BS.

Unfortunately, the dealership is now corporately owned by a local conglomerate, and I reached out to him about the new Tundra, and he straight up said "hi, yes I remember you, and you won't like the way the new ownership is running this dealership" I very much appreciate that, but now I have no good connections for Toyota in my area. Haven't felt out the Nissan dealers yet, it's been 13 years since I bought my Titan, I don't think they consider a every-decade guy like me a "good customer"

 

[McLovin157]

So, I bought my wife a new Toyota right before the pandemic hit, 12/2019. There's 5 Toyota dealerships in a "reasonable" area near us. 4 of them were horrible. The dealership we went with, and more specifically the salesman I worked with was excellent. Being that I used to work in dealerships, I have zero patience for games. I'm always up front about my expectations and this salesman gave me exactly zero BS.

Unfortunately, the dealership is now corporately owned by a local conglomerate, and I reached out to him about the new Tundra, and he straight up said "hi, yes I remember you, and you won't like the way the new ownership is running this dealership" I very much appreciate that, but now I have no good connections for Toyota in my area. Haven't felt out the Nissan dealers yet, it's been 13 years since I bought my Titan, I don't think they consider a every-decade guy like me a "good customer"

You are my favorite kind of customer. My opening statement is "Listen I'm a forward person and I just tell it how it is. So please don't misjudge my forwardness for rudeness." Things go over so much better when your clear, concise and forward about the process and what's going on. However full disclosure if someone comes in with a clip board or notepad and pen my defenses are up to 150% because that guy is always a fighter.

 

[Blackbeard]

lol i cant be like that with sales they just tell me to go fuck myself lol

 

[indio22]

You are my favorite kind of customer. My opening statement is "Listen I'm a forward person and I just tell it how it is. So please don't misjudge my forwardness for rudeness." Things go over so much better when your clear, concise and forward about the process and what's going on. However full disclosure if someone comes in with a clip board or notepad and pen my defenses are up to 150% because that guy is always a fighter.

I bought my first new car a couple years ago ... and took along a pencil and paper, lol.

I kept carefully and deliberately reviewing my checklist, running some calculations, and making sure I didn't miss any key concerns. For me it was helpful.

Although, I was there for nearly 4 hours! Maybe the dealer was trying to wear me down with the repeated "check with manager" and get the customer tired and with low blood sugar routine.