extended warranty

[NocturnalEmber]

I want to add my experience with the extended wheel & tire warranty. Not worth it. I curbed my rims and Nissan sent me to a 3rd party to have them repaired. They claimed to use the OE paint color code but now my front rims are a lighter shade than the rear. A warranty is supposed to bring your car back to how it was before the failure or accidental damage as per the terms but that is not the case with NIssan at least. When I was finalizing the purchase of my Z, the financial person told me if I need new tires just run over some screws and come in to have them replaced for free. That sounds like 100% bs. I'm sure not all dealers are like this, but NY is not a "kind" state. NY is all about "F U PAY ME". Ok I'm done.

It's all in the fine print, make sure you thoroughly read what you are signing if it comes down to it. The sales person can theoretically say anything they want, but you aren't entering into an agreement with the sales person, in fact it's likely the contract specifically excludes anything verbal. All they care about is making the sale. Any post sales support or claims they couldn't care less about, their goal is to get you to part with your money, once that's done, so are they. The deciding factor is what's in the agreement that's signed.

 

[FSUZ33]

Extended warranties, whether for a car or a toaster, are a numbers game. It’s why the advertising and sales pitch typically advises you to “invest” in one, not “buy”. The odds you’ll come out better throwing $3500 in a savings account and letting it earn a meager bit of interest for X years are FAR greater than ‘investing’ in an extended warranty. Not saying you shouldn’t. Your call. But the odds are purposefully stacked against you. And even more so in the case of an automobile that’s well maintained.

 

[NocturnalEmber]

Extended warranties, whether for a car or a toaster, are a numbers game. It’s why the advertising and sales pitch typically advises you to “invest” in one, not “buy”. The odds you’ll come out better throwing $3500 in a savings account and letting it earn a meager bit of interest for X years are FAR greater than ‘investing’ in an extended warranty. Not saying you shouldn’t. Your call. But the odds are purposefully stacked against you. And even more so in the case of an automobile that’s well maintained.

My one caveat here with the Z would be the VR30. If the whole cracking head bolts issue persists from the Q50/Q60 that's going to be an expensive endeavor out of warranty. Especially if it happens and Nissan does a Nissan and only decides to rectify it by replacing the defective cylinder head with the same defective design.

Though I suppose only time will tell if that happens to us; I really hope we aren't susceptible to that.

 

[5thZ]

My one caveat here with the Z would be the VR30. If the whole cracking head bolts issue persists from the Q50/Q60 that's going to be an expensive endeavor out of warranty. Especially if it happens and Nissan does a Nissan and only decides to rectify it by replacing the defective cylinder head with the same defective design.

Though I suppose only time will tell if that happens to us; I really hope we aren't susceptible to that.

Are you referring to the "porous blocks" the Infiniti's had?

I may be completely off here but I thought the VR30 is a baby VR38 (GT-R) engine. I can only dream

 

[peter]

Our standard warranty in Australia is 5 years and comes with roadside assist, this warranty can then go to 10 years as long as you have your car served at a Nissan dealer

 

[Nurburg_beast]

Extended warranties, whether for a car or a toaster, are a numbers game. It’s why the advertising and sales pitch typically advises you to “invest” in one, not “buy”. The odds you’ll come out better throwing $3500 in a savings account and letting it earn a meager bit of interest for X years are FAR greater than ‘investing’ in an extended warranty. Not saying you shouldn’t. Your call. But the odds are purposefully stacked against you. And even more so in the case of an automobile that’s well maintained.

Agreed. I don't feel it's worth it, let alone at that ridiculous price. Will just stick to the warranties they already provided.

My one caveat here with the Z would be the VR30. If the whole cracking head bolts issue persists from the Q50/Q60 that's going to be an expensive endeavor out of warranty. Especially if it happens and Nissan does a Nissan and only decides to rectify it by replacing the defective cylinder head with the same defective design.

Though I suppose only time will tell if that happens to us; I really hope we aren't susceptible to that.

The engine also worries me the most, given that the rest of the car is mostly carried over from the 370Z. However, they offered the lifetime powertrain warranty, and I definitely feel less concerned on that end.

Our standard warranty in Australia is 5 years and comes with roadside assist, this warranty can then go to 10 years as long as you have your car served at a Nissan dealer

Sounds like a great deal! The other dealer offered corrosion, maintenance warranty + roadside assistance, but not the powertrain. All dealers here seem to vary on their warranty offers.

 

[NocturnalEmber]

Are you referring to the "porous blocks" the Infiniti's had?

I may be completely off here but I thought the VR30 is a baby VR38 (GT-R) engine. I can only dream

The whole 'porous block' term is a misnomer based on AMS' findings. If I had to guess, it's likely based on infiniti technicians not doing enough research into the problem and likely chalking it up to something easy enough to point the finger at as the culprit, hence the 'porous block' term that stuck despite it not being the problem.

AMS did some testing recently on some failed VR30's with coolant/oil cross contamination and they found it wasn't an actual porous block; AMS actually went on to say there hasn't been a single porous block they've encountered on a VR30 but rather the cylinder heads are cracking around the head bolt bosses and around the exhaust ports.

The picture below is a cross section AMS took a photo of from a defective VR30 head they pulled out. I can't remember off the top of my head but I believe they said they haven't yet seen anything with the Z's. Though honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this starts happening once they get to be a few years old, There have been some 2020~ model year Q50's/Q60's I believe that have had the issue. I'd hope Nissan wouldn't have let this issue creep into the Z, had they known about it, but that's assuming they knew about it at the time. I guess there's no real way to tell except to wait and see.

The VR30 I guess you could say is a baby GTR engine in the sense that they are both VR engines, but similarities I think are few and far between; intake manifolds are different, exhaust manifolds are different, etc.

 

[sherlla]

did anyone buy the Assurant warranty? or anyone have experience with this company?

 

[Meg_Z]

As many have already stated extended warranties are a crap game and most of the time the house always win. Only time will tell on the build quality and durability of the VR30. One would hope or at least assume that quality and maybe design improvements have been made throughout the lifespan of this engine.

 

[NocturnalEmber]

did anyone buy the Assurant warranty? or anyone have experience with this company?

I would only mess with the Nissan Security+ gold if you were going to get one. 3rd party warranties are notoriously bad at wanting to not pay. If you can get the Nissan backed one (regardless of what the dealer tries to shill) you will probably be in better shape if you need to make a claim, provided you hold up your end of the agreement.

Edit: there's a website I believe you can find in your owners manual that shows where you can get the one I'm referencing, I'd start there if you feel the need to get one.

I don't have one myself, but given the uncertainty of the VR30 head issue in the Q50's and Q60's, I'd say better safe than sorry.

 

[bpeckham]

My car is nearing the end of the 3-year factory warranty, and I'm considering an extended warranty. Not because of potential engine issues (the drivetrain warranty is five years), but because of all the other little issues this car seems to have.

On the other hand, it seems like the dealers won't even look at an issue unless it's 100% failure, so probably not worth the money.

 

[Zplz]

My car is nearing the end of the 3-year factory warranty, and I'm considering an extended warranty…

Yes, that’s something to keep in mind. I looked at extended warranty options on the Nissan website out of curiosity and noted if you want to go with one, you need to do it within 3 years of your new car purchase. At least that was my understanding with the Nissan extended warranty options.

I agree, though, it is a sort of crap shoot, as in I’m betting I might need it, especially for a major expense, and Nissan is betting I won’t need it, at least to the extent they won’t end up paying more for claims that end up exceeding what they’re raking in on policies.

I still have more than two years before having to make a decision. The engine is a possible concern and a major impact item, so it’ll be interesting to see how that goes. Although, I expect Nissan to be keeping an I eye on it, too, and if it turns out to be an issue for the Z, I’d expect an increase in cost for new policies.

Do I feel lucky?

 

[peter]

In Australia ours are covered for 10 years, additional 5 after the normal warranty as long as you continue to service at Nissan dealer.

 

[bpeckham]

In Australia ours are covered for 10 years, additional 5 after the normal warranty as long as you continue to service at Nissan dealer.

I think I'm just going to assume that my car is built at least as well as the AU model, and skip the warranty.

 

[Zplz]

In Australia ours are covered for 10 years, additional 5 after the normal warranty as long as you continue to service at Nissan dealer.

Interesting. The ever growing omnipresent A.I. claims Nissan and some others have started doing this in Australia as a way of helping them with competition. I didn’t think Nissan, in general, was doing that great in the U.S., either.

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