Does anyone actually want an automatic?

[relyt]

And here (as posted by V35 in another topic) is what happens to the few such morons who do stupidly attempt it.

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The morons get what they deserve ... the problem is they often kill someone else.

I went to high school with that guy. ?

 

[rocksandblues]

fwiw a lot of the fastest AutoX guys in the hated Zupra use sport mode and leave in Auto and concentrate on the other inputs

 

[Kbl911]

Anyone planting their foot to do 4sec 0-60 times on public roads should have their driving licence revoked.

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Anyone planting their foot to do 4sec 0-60 times *in unsafe conditions or in an uncontrolled manner* on public roads should have their driving *license* revoked.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Twizzty]

Anyone that has a sports car and says they haven't floored it on a public road is a liar!

It's just that simple.

 

[Donalex]

How are you supposed to get on an expressway and get in the fast lane, while introducing yourself to the other drivers? ???

 

[Zboy]

No... next question

 

[Evolution]

fwiw a lot of the fastest AutoX guys in the hated Zupra use sport mode and leave in Auto and concentrate on the other inputs

That is me. Can always flick the paddles if you dont like the choice the ecu made but its rare that its needed. Seems like its working just fine considering I am in 2nd place for season long points....

 

[trackratZ]

One good case for an auto....MPG




New Z should really come with a DCT.

 

[takemorepills]

I kinda mentioned it previously....

If big HP mods are in the cards, get the MT.

Nissan automatics are sketchy with extra power, and far more expensive to build out than a MT.

Do you really want to have to send off the 9AT for enhancements that may or may not be reliable?

The MT is simply clutch and flywheel. And no need to program a TCM. Easy peasy on a vehicle lift.

Although the 9AT can shuffle gears faster, I'd bet you could get a 6MT to pull harder in each gear when modded.

If that's your thing.

I have no intention of modding a Z too much, so just something that might be considered for some people.....

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

Anyone that has a sports car and says they haven't floored it on a public road is a liar!

It's just that simple.

Completely wrong. I've had a 200sx turbo for nearly 25 years and never floored it on public roads. That's dangerous, irresponsible, childish, and done by the moronically stupid. Everyone caught doing that should not only have their licence permanently removed, but their car also instantly confiscated and crushed.

A few years ago some moron doing just that to show off crashed off the road and only narrowly missed a group of school girls waiting at a bus stop. Another moron in a night street race meet caused a girl to need to have her legs amputated after crashing into her.

If you want to drive fast, take it to a track where it belongs (and where anyone in a standard Z will get their ass handed to them on a plate by all those driving the more expensive faster cars).

 

[fliplover]

I kinda mentioned it previously....

If big HP mods are in the cards, get the MT.

Nissan automatics are sketchy with extra power, and far more expensive to build out than a MT.

Do you really want to have to send off the 9AT for enhancements that may or may not be reliable?

The MT is simply clutch and flywheel. And no need to program a TCM. Easy peasy on a vehicle lift.

Although the 9AT can shuffle gears faster, I'd bet you could get a 6MT to pull harder in each gear when modded.

If that's your thing.

I have no intention of modding a Z too much, so just something that might be considered for some people.....

The new Z has an Exedy clutch, so even that may not need to be upgraded.

 

[Kbl911]

Completely wrong. I've had a 200sx turbo for nearly 25 years and never floored it on public roads. That's dangerous, irresponsible, childish, and done by the moronically stupid. Everyone caught doing that should not only have their licence permanently removed, but their car also instantly confiscated and crushed.

A few years ago some moron doing just that to show off crashed off the road and only narrowly missed a group of school girls waiting at a bus stop. Another moron in a night street race meet caused a girl to need to have her legs amputated after crashing into her.

If you want to drive fast, take it to a track where it belongs (and where anyone in a standard Z will get their ass handed to them on a plate by all those driving the more expensive faster cars).

Yes, because this isn't a massive false-equivalency. Come on, man, he wasn't referring specifically to street racing. It really seems like you are either deliberately misinterpreting this or being obtuse because you have a particular bone to pick with...something.

That you have never applied full throttle in any vehicle - at any time - on a public road places you in the vast, vast, vast minority not only of sports car owners, but automobile drivers full-stop. I cannot say what your specific issue with that commonplace action (freeway on-ramp, passing situations, etc) might be, but let's not pretend that yours is the only sensible position on the matter. There's no need to proselytize because you have an aversion to this.

 

[Twizzty]

Completely wrong. I've had a 200sx turbo for nearly 25 years and never floored it on public roads. That's dangerous, irresponsible, childish, and done by the moronically stupid. Everyone caught doing that should not only have their licence permanently removed, but their car also instantly confiscated and crushed.

A few years ago some moron doing just that to show off crashed off the road and only narrowly missed a group of school girls waiting at a bus stop. Another moron in a night street race meet caused a girl to need to have her legs amputated after crashing into her.

If you want to drive fast, take it to a track where it belongs (and where anyone in a standard Z will get their ass handed to them on a plate by all those driving the more expensive faster cars).

That's a weak troll. There's a time and place for everything and to say you've never gone WOT on a public road is hilarious. So going WOT = street racing to you...lol ok got it. I also like that you equate more expensive, faster cars to getting your ass handed to you when it's actually the driver and not the car that makes the biggest difference on track. Normally, one of the first lessons is getting schooled by someone with half the HP you have and it's great!

Carry on!

 

[trackratZ]

If you want to drive fast, take it to a track where it belongs (and where anyone in a standard Z will get their ass handed to them on a plate by all those driving the more expensive faster cars).

False statement, you should know not to generalize like that.

I've been tracking for years, why I'm able to safely use full throttle often when the situation calls for.

Too many stupid stunts on streets, that's fact, driver egos getting them, passengers, and/or bystanders killed!

Try some track days, most are safely monitored, beginner groups have classroom and lead-follow lapping, learning lines, braking, apex turns, safety etc. For the price paid for the entire day it's worth it. You WILL learn car control at limits. No need to do any of this on streets.

 

[NJZGuy]

Posts like this are very common in sports cars, heck even muscle cars, forums. It's never definitive, what each really 'wants' as their own preferences, really.

Let's throw in another factor, if the Z is avail with a true dual-clutch (DCT, PDK) auto, that might be more game-changer for manual buyers. Sadly the Z only comes with a slushbox, i.e. torque convertor, auto. Down and upshifts will never be as quick as DCT. OTOH the 9 speed is totally fine for a daily driver.

Now, comparing against EVs with their instant torque capabilities are kind of fruitless, EVs will always win on straight line pulls, only few exotics can match. This won't get any better for ICEs in the future, we all know it.

Had Nissan decided to redesign the Z completely from the ground up the way General Motors did the mid-engine C8 Corvette, they might have been able to go with a DCT--but then the Z would never have come in at the existing price point that it did.

Given Nissan's financial struggles and them probably not wanting the potential of cutting into their GT-R sales with a lower-cost alternative--like a NISMO Z with a DCT--it makes sense that Nissan found it more financially feasible to reboot and update the 370Z and offer a manual and automatic.

Most manual buyers would still prefer a manual. Even though a DCT gives you the absolute best of both worlds, the additional complexity and cost of a DCT over a conventional manual transmission would serve a a deterrent to some.