2023 Nissan Z are finally starting to roll into dealerships

[jc604]

A ton of dealers/ people have been posting z’s on facebook but they are all auto with mark ups ofc. I wonder if they are holding the manuals for the tranny replacement? Seems to me they haven’t produced new ones with the tranny replacement as of yet

 

[trackratZ]

A ton of dealers/ people have been posting z’s on facebook but they are all auto with mark ups ofc. I wonder if they are holding the manuals for the tranny replacement? Seems to me they haven’t produced new ones with the tranny replacement as of yet

Basically it, yes! It looks like those who purchased manuals, for the most part, had to return them for transmission replacements.

 

[Donalex]

I've been involved in the car bidness from the dealer to banking for almost thirty years.

This is the worst product presentation (370 with old engine and body kit) and rollout (YouTuber idiots, tranny and body design/paint issues) I've ever seen. From any manufacturer.

This is in the class of the Chevrolet Vega and Pontiac Fiero.

 

[takemorepills]

When does MY24 production start? Lol There’s no hope for MY23.

Good point. How are these Feb/Mar 2022 production dates being pawned off as "2023"??

I see people taking delivery of these Z's, made in very early 2022, receiving them 10-12 months later in 2023....aren't those Z's 2022s??

 

[MCN1SMO]

Good point. How are these Feb/Mar 2022 production dates being pawned off as "2023"??

I see people taking delivery of these Z's, made in very early 2022, receiving them 10-12 months later in 2023....aren't those Z's 2022s??

Manufacturer model year and calendar year can be a bit out of whack. You can have short model years or even ones that are stretched and bleed Into others. Nissan is especially a bit wonky with this. I've been through this in the GTR community. For example The GTR recently had a 2021 and an under the radar 2021.5 model year( you could only tell form a vin change) no 2022 model at all and then a short 2023 carry over model year where those cars are just now showing up at dealers. And now currently the refreshed 2024 scheduled to arrive in the spring of this year. Try to wrap your head around all of that

So those old almost year old built Zs that have sat are 2023 just like the ones that are on ships as we speak. It will be 2023 until Nissan decides it's not. I would assume we wouldn't see that for a few more months. Remember the 23s were supposed to be on sale last spring. They got a handful of Protos out late summer to basically be able to say the car is released via a press release.

So we are coming up on a year after the initial release was planned for and in most customers eyes we haven't even had a full model year yet. It does in a way feel like 2023 model is a lost cause for most and it makes sense some are already writing them off and looking forward to the 24 at this point.

It could really go 2 different ways we could get an announcement of a 2024 and have it start this spring a year after it was initially planned or we could have the 23 run all the way into summer time frame and start the 24s around when we saw the Protos last year. It depends I guess on when the production cut off date is in Japan.

I think it will be the latter just based on the initial allocation letter i obtained( and apparently got a bit in trouble for posting) said every dealer would get 1 2023 Z during the initial launch period and we are a hell of a long way from that being a reality. If that is still in place we got a ways to go. If they have deviated from that because of all the delays and issues then I guess they could move on to 24 sooner

 

[MCN1SMO]

I also think the insult to injury would be after all the delays if the 24 got some sort of meaningful upgrade. where lets say you finally receive your march of 22 build a year later and a couple months later the 24 is announced. The fiasco with the 2nd year supra getting the substantial power bump is probably the best example of this. not saying we will see something like that but even a better tire or tweaked suspension or just fixing all the first year bugs ect would be a bit of a gut bunch after waiting on your 23 for so long.

my long term plan for the Z was initially to try to get one of the early cars in 2022 then keep it and enjoy it until the NISMO came out whether that be 1-2 years whatever. now with a possible NISMO announcement likely this year. what happens If I do get lucky come across a Z in the spring. we are so late into the 2023 model cycle I can certainly see where these questions about making the right 50K+ decision come into play for some of us

 

[takemorepills]

I also think the insult to injury would be after all the delays if the 24 got some sort of meaningful upgrade. where lets say you finally receive your march of 22 build a year later and a couple months later the 24 is announced. The fiasco with the 2nd year supra getting the substantial power bump is probably the best example of this. not saying we will see something like that but even a better tire or tweaked suspension or just fixing all the first year bugs ect would be a bit of a gut bunch after waiting on your 23 for so long.

my long term plan for the Z was initially to try to get one of the early cars in 2022 then keep it and enjoy it until the NISMO came out whether that be 1-2 years whatever. now with a possible NISMO announcement likely this year. what happens If I do get lucky come across a Z in the spring. we are so late into the 2023 model cycle I can certainly see where these questions about making the right 50K+ decision come into play for some of us

My son thinks the Z looks great, except for the front bumper cover design. I kinda agree, it's "meh" and I can tolerate it for the twin turbo experience, but I'd be bummed if a mid cycle refresh brought out a much better looking front bumper cover.

I mean, the product cycle clock for the Z actually started for a 22 MY vehicle.... remember initially these were supposed to be released as 22's, until that release video mentioned them as 23's. So, in corporate Nissan, the 24 MY will be the vehicle's 3rd market year. Totally plausible that there will be some meaningful change to the 24.

Remember the "fangs" bumper cover of the 370? Man I hated that design, the next design was much better.

Oh, and 23 MY Z's are going to be forever rare. We're closing in on 24 MY vehicles being released in 6 months, and there's not even several hundred '23 Z's delivered yet.

 

[Thisguy298]

im having the opposite problem of getting these outrageous quotes. Instead of looking all over Ive got 2 dealerships that will both do MSRP due to an existing relationship but neither have an allocation or any hint of one incoming. one is a smaller independently owned dealer so im not as surprised on that one as much but the other is part of a large chain in my area no movement toward allocations and even if they get one they would have to fill out and submit a request form to try to get my trim/color

the reason I havent been blind calling around is back in mid december I had a guy contact me who had a list of where all 271 in transit Zs were headed through the month of January. so I knew where they all would be but out of the list only 27 matched what i was looking for a performance 9AT black with either black or red accent interior. none were in state and only 1 in a direct surrounding state which was marked way up. i have no option but to wait on my dealer contacts to get an allocation and then hope they can successfully request the correct car from whats incoming in the region

no idea what world you live in, but it clearly ain't the same one as me lol

 

[justnic]

15k ADM. WA state.
the wait continues.

 

[280driver]

15k ADM. WA state.
the wait continues.

Your lucky day ?

 

[Z06fan]

15k ADM. WA state.
the wait continues.

Sounds like it's your lucky day, lol. "Only" a 15k markup. Gotta love car sales people.

 

[justnic]

Sounds like it's your lucky day, lol. "Only" a 15k markup. Gotta love car sales people.

I mean it is the spec I want.
the other dealers only have the autos.
I just might have to….
Lololol

 

[takemorepills]

15k ADM. WA state.
the wait continues.

Nope.
Your REAL luck is getting to pay nearly 11% tax on that bad boy
Inslee will appreciate it!

 

[justnic]

10k ADM now.
???

 

[Houston.RZ34]

15k ADM. WA state.
the wait continues.

For that money, I'd rather do this. (yes, it's a legit price)