Complaint about the Z release

[fliplover]

You obviously are not an engineer. Totally changing their production process is incredibly complex and would take time to ramp up and get the bugs out. Also, the Z is not Priority 1 at Nissan. The Ariya is, and that vehicle is made at Tochigi as well. The Ariya won't be in the US until late this year and availability will be low. Between the chip shortage, COVID, and supplier issues, the auto industry is in a world of hurt right now.

All the articles I've seen about the new production line at Tochigi mention the Ariya, with nary a mention of the Z. All the articles say is the new production line can make EV and ICE cars on the same line at the same time. To me, that just confirms that the Ariya is the number 1 priority.

 

[West Aussie]

Nissan is still working out the bugs on their new 'wiperless' windshield. That's why the delays. ?

I’d laugh…but at this point, I just can’t

 

[takemorepills]

China is going to attack Taiwan as the west shows no resolve over Russia. Sorry to be touching on global politics, but it's a well known fact that China is seriously considering using major conflict and lack of resolve as their chance.

When they get attacked, we definitely won't be getting ANY cars from Japan, and the chip shortage will get far worse with Taiwan and shipping in that area going offline.

Then, after everything settles down and Taiwan is a ruinous wasteland unable to manufacturer chips, time will have marched on leaving the Z irrelevant once manufacturing could get back to "normal"

 

[tractng]

Will be picking up another Miata (2022 Soul Red) tomorrow. Sold a 2016 ND which I owned 5.5 years about 6 months ago (longest car I kept). I will revisit the new Z in a few years (hopefully it will be discounted then). Owned 3 generations of Z (1988, 1994, 2004, 2005). Happy motoring1

 

[jdm-rhd]

Will be picking up another Miata (2022 Soul Red) tomorrow. Sold a 2016 ND which I owned 5.5 years about 6 months ago (longest car I kept). I will revisit the new Z in a few years (hopefully it will be discounted then). Owned 3 generations of Z (1988, 1994, 2004, 2005). Happy motoring1

good for you...
there's been several of us here who went a different direction. the z is still on my radar for the future, but probably not for the launch if this new deal goes through for me.

 

[West Aussie]

Will be picking up another Miata (2022 Soul Red) tomorrow. Sold a 2016 ND which I owned 5.5 years about 6 months ago (longest car I kept). I will revisit the new Z in a few years (hopefully it will be discounted then). Owned 3 generations of Z (1988, 1994, 2004, 2005). Happy motoring1

I contacted my Mazda dealer, wait for a soul red in manual her in Aus is 5 months.
Now I’m in a pickle, do I pull the trigger and wait till August for it to arrive? Or do I trust in Nissan that we will get delivery this year…it’s a predicament

 

[COOL Z]

I have lost interest as well. Way too much dicking around. I started looking at the gas cap. Hmmm ... It is kinda out of place. Then I started looking at ... This and that. There are not many of us left who actually WANT a two door automobile instead of some fatt SUV that can't turn. It's a terrible shame but ... I am taking my purchase in another direction.

 

[ZZ2022]

I have lost interest as well. Way too much dicking around. I started looking at the gas cap. Hmmm ... It is kinda out of place. Then I started looking at ... This and that. There are not many of us left who actually WANT a two door automobile instead of some fatt SUV that can't turn. It's a terrible shame but ... I am taking my purchase in another direction.

Totally understandable

 

[takemorepills]

Speaking of Taiwan and the color red, I just got this red made in Taiwan rolling tool chest. Hey, I can't get any of the new vehicles I want, at least I can be happy about this. (Hopefully someday I'll use it when working on a new Z.)

I've got the bigger blue one, but it is made in China. Are you sure it's Taiwan? That'd be awesome if HF is switching away from China. Taiwan stuff is really good.

 

[LeatherWings]

I've had a number of different Giant mountain bikes. Can confirm that Made in Taiwan goods are good stuff! ?? ?

 

[BurninateZ]

Will be picking up another Miata (2022 Soul Red) tomorrow. Sold a 2016 ND which I owned 5.5 years about 6 months ago (longest car I kept). I will revisit the new Z in a few years (hopefully it will be discounted then). Owned 3 generations of Z (1988, 1994, 2004, 2005). Happy motoring1

What pushed you towards another Miata? I see a few around, and really like the styling / low weight ethos.

 

[2017370ZBlack]

I have lost interest as well. Way too much dicking around. I started looking at the gas cap. Hmmm ... It is kinda out of place. Then I started looking at ... This and that. There are not many of us left who actually WANT a two door automobile instead of some fatt SUV that can't turn. It's a terrible shame but ... I am taking my purchase in another direction.

Good luck!

Even buyers of a Ford Maverick are waiting until 2023.

Here's an update a Porsche buyer got after the ship sank in the Atlantic, taking 4,000 cars with it. Obviously a screwup, but hilarious:

 

[2017370ZBlack]

China is going to attack Taiwan as the west shows no resolve over Russia. Sorry to be touching on global politics, but it's a well known fact that China is seriously considering using major conflict and lack of resolve as their chance.

When they get attacked, we definitely won't be getting ANY cars from Japan, and the chip shortage will get far worse with Taiwan and shipping in that area going offline.

Then, after everything settles down and Taiwan is a ruinous wasteland unable to manufacturer chips, time will have marched on leaving the Z irrelevant once manufacturing could get back to "normal"

Can't wait to see if China gets "cancelled" like Russia has been.

 

[takemorepills]

Can't wait to see if China gets "cancelled" like Russia has been.

Highly doubtful.

People really enjoy cheap stuff too much. And way too many politicians are financially tied to Chinese industry.

 

[therumblewagon]

What pushed you towards another Miata? I see a few around, and really like the styling / low weight ethos.

I owned an NA (97) back in the day, and would do it again in a heartbeat. Remains my favorite car to this day, set the bar so high for others.

Car was such a treat to drive—hyper focused on the driver experience behind the wheel, not to mention so easy to work on the rare times it needed anything. I tried to sit in a ND2 recently and could probably fit if I did what I did to my NA (bolt seat to floor, QR + smaller diameter steering wheel). Would probably just try the rail trick first to see, since the cabin definitely felt a little more spacious.

All of this makes me think I'd probably be happy with a GR—with a little boost it down the road—but I've always wanted a Z so I'm seeing this through.