Complaint about the Z release

[West Aussie]

Nothing but love for our neighbors to the north and y'all down under, but I think I can speak for all Americans on here when I say we'd lose our minds, lol.

If I ran things, everyone would receive at the same time—or at the very least, within the same month. I realize that's probably impossible for a multitude of reasons, but the US is above and beyond the biggest market for Nissan, so it'd be baffling if it worked out that way.

I agree, but just lately there is not much that makes sense in this world

 

[therumblewagon]

I agree, but just lately there is not much that makes sense in this world

Touché. I would say we need a countdown banner at the top of the forum until March 21. Something like X DAYS, Y HOURS, Z MINUTES (heck, seconds too if we want) UNTIL "SPRING 2022" but I feel like that would just toy with our emotions even more

 

[Drseckzytime]

BothnCanada and Australia have now been told June…I know I joked about it earlier…but what if the smaller markets actually do get serviced earlier, because the lower level of stock is easier to, produce?

Well it would be a bold move, and let's see how it would work out for them releasing the model car that was originally designed for and still primarily targeted to the US buyers which is their largest market lol.

But hey. If Nissan prefers I take my money elsewhere, I'll oblige.

It's crazy though we are this far into 2022 and now spring which this car is supposed to go on sale, and here we are, completely and utterly in the dark.

 

[fliplover]

BothnCanada and Australia have now been told June…I know I joked about it earlier…but what if the smaller markets actually do get serviced earlier, because the lower level of stock is easier to, produce?

 

[West Aussie]

I highly doubt it, but it’s interesting how the two markets are being treated so differently

 

[LeatherWings]

I owned an NA (97) back in the day, and would do it again in a heartbeat. Remains my favorite car to this day, set the bar so high for others.

Car was such a treat to drive—hyper focused on the driver experience behind the wheel, not to mention so easy to work on the rare times it needed anything. I tried to sit in a ND2 recently and could probably fit if I did what I did to my NA (bolt seat to floor, QR + smaller diameter steering wheel). Would probably just try the rail trick first to see, since the cabin definitely felt a little more spacious.

All of this makes me think I'd probably be happy with a GR—with a little boost it down the road—but I've always wanted a Z so I'm seeing this through.

I test drove an ND2 and was really into it, even though I didn't get to take it on any twisty roads. I dig the whole philosophy behind the Miata. There's something very appealing about the lightweight simplicity of it all, and I really get a kick out of how you just undo the soft top latch, throw it behind you and BOOM, top down and ready to go!

I've also thought about picking up an NA to tool around in while impatiently waiting for the Z... I feel like I owe it to myself to drive one, but those used NA prices are not cheap.

There's a Mazda dealer in SoCal that's pledging no dealer markups... I may give them a call to see how legit it is.

I'm willing to wait and see how the situation with the Z pans out, but everyone's got a breaking point...

 

[therumblewagon]

I test drove an ND2 and was really into it, even though I didn't get to take it on any twisty roads. I dig the whole philosophy behind the Miata. There's something very appealing about the lightweight simplicity of it all, and I really get a kick out of how you just undo the soft top latch, throw it behind you and BOOM, top down and ready to go!

I've also thought about picking up an NA to tool around in while impatiently waiting for the Z... I feel like I owe it to myself to drive one, but those used NA prices are not cheap.

There's a Mazda dealer in SoCal that's pledging no dealer markups... I may give them a call to see how legit it is.

I'm willing to wait and see how the situation with the Z pans out, but everyone's got a breaking point...

What are NAs going for these days? I haven’t looked in a minute, but doesn’t surprise me they’re holding value. They’re great cars.

Interesting to see at that Mazda dealer, too. How’s their inventory? See if you can slip the sales guy some cash or buy them lunch, get an extended test drive and head up to the Angeles Crest Highway. Bet it would be a blast and a half.

 

[West Aussie]

I test drove an ND2 and was really into it, even though I didn't get to take it on any twisty roads. I dig the whole philosophy behind the Miata. There's something very appealing about the lightweight simplicity of it all, and I really get a kick out of how you just undo the soft top latch, throw it behind you and BOOM, top down and ready to go!

I've also thought about picking up an NA to tool around in while impatiently waiting for the Z... I feel like I owe it to myself to drive one, but those used NA prices are not cheap.

There's a Mazda dealer in SoCal that's pledging no dealer markups... I may give them a call to see how legit it is.

I'm willing to wait and see how the situation with the Z pans out, but everyone's got a breaking point...

In a time where you guys aren’t being told that mark ups for the Z are inevitable….this could well be a tipping point as to what you will buy.

And this is why I say, Nissan in the US have gotta sort this out…it’s not good for anyone except for the dealer, and in the long run, it’s not even good for them

 

[LeatherWings]

What are NAs going for these days? I haven’t looked in a minute, but doesn’t surprise me they’re holding value. They’re great cars.

Seems to run the gamut, but most listings I see are from $7-10k for one in good, running condition with no issues.

Interesting to see at that Mazda dealer, too. How’s their inventory? See if you can slip the sales guy some cash or buy them lunch, get an extended test drive and head up to the Angeles Crest Highway. Bet it would be a blast and a half.

They only have Grand Touring MX-5s at the moment, most of which are the RF model. I'd want the Club in a soft top. But taking any of 'em for a spin on ACH does sound super nice!

I've been watching reviews of the 2022 and they seem to be quite favorable for the new KPC (Kinematic Posture Control) feature. Noticeably reduces the excessive body roll that stock NDs are known for.

 

[therumblewagon]

Seems to run the gamut, but most listings I see are from $7-10k for one in good, running condition with no issues.

They only have Grand Touring MX-5s at the moment, most of which are the RF model. I'd want the Club in a soft top. But taking any of 'em for a spin on ACH does sound super nice!

I've been watching reviews of the 2022 and they seem to be quite favorable for the new KPC (Kinematic Posture Control) feature. Noticeably reduces the excessive body roll that stock NDs are known for.

NAs are great, but that's still a decent chunk of change. Good for folks getting them at that rate, though.

And Yeah, don't blame you re: Club—I feel like the Miata is the last kind of a car you want all the bells and whistles on. Keep It Simple, Stupid and all that.

Agreed on KPC, too, seems to be a great factory fix versus having to slap in Koni Yellows or some other aftermarket solution. Love that Mazda worked to address a known issue in a mid-cycle refresh. Now I'm half tempted to at least try to take one for a test spin, just to see how much they've advanced since my 97.

 

[LeatherWings]

And Yeah, don't blame you re: Club—I feel like the Miata is the last kind of a car you want all the bells and whistles on. Keep It Simple, Stupid and all that.

Just got off the phone with a Mazda dealer in 'The Valley' (and much closer to me than San Juan Capistrano). The Miata Club is online build-to-order only, and they estimate up to 10 weeks for delivery - possibly sooner if Mazda is already building one out to the same or similar spec/features. And MSRP is the price I would pay. No additional markups. Just tax, reg, and destination.

Hmmmm. I think a '22 Miata just might be in my not-too-distant future...

I already started hot-rodding one in Gran Turismo 7...

I'm going for the juxtaposition of a hyper-masculine and aggro image of the Punisher skull on this curvy little fun car. ??



Oh, I forgot. I'm gonna try and see if the Costco auto discount program would apply to this car.

 

[DanPYo]

I’m fine with getting sight unseen.
live driven stacks of sports cars in the past, after the initial 30 min, find myself quite at home in all, from Honda, to Lotus, to Peugeot, Miatas…I’ve never felt uncomfortable yet, actually that’s a lie. The one car I found no enjoyment from after test driving last week was the mini, no Idea why…just wasn’t fun

Im not going to the track, it’s for pure enjoyment on my daily rides, and take it up into the hills or into winery territory for a nice weekend out.
Perhaps if I was tracking it, I would think differently …but I won’t be

Worst case, sit on it for 6 months and sell it at a huge profit. Unless you've been talking to the same guy that I have. In which case you should just back out now. Not worth the risk

 

[therumblewagon]

Just got off the phone with a Mazda dealer in 'The Valley' (and much closer to me than San Juan Capistrano). The Miata Club is online build-to-order only, and they estimate up to 10 weeks for delivery - possibly sooner if Mazda is already building one out to the same or similar spec/features. And MSRP is the price I would pay. No additional markups. Just tax, reg, and destination.

Hmmmm. I think a '22 Miata just might be in my not-too-distant future...

I already started hot-rodding one in Gran Turismo 7...

I'm going for the juxtaposition of a hyper-masculine and aggro image of the Punisher skull on this curvy little fun car. ??



Oh, I forgot. I'm gonna try and see if the Costco auto discount program would apply to this car.

Hey, I'm a big dude (6'6") so you can only imagine the looks I got in mine. Especially when I had a fellow dude riding pax. Did either of us care? Nope, because a) top always down, b) music always up and c) it was a blast to drive or ride in.

 

[West Aussie]

I was tempted by the MX-5 but dealer in Aus said it’s around a 5-6 month wait on them ( same built to your specifications) so puts the arrival at the same time as the Z, so I’m going to wait it out
The Elise was also very tempting, but as a second hand sale I have to reregister in my state and take it over the pits…if anything is wrong or illegally modded it won’t get registered till it’s fixed, and on a Lotus that could be expensive…plus nowhere to put my shopping ?

 

[LeatherWings]

I was tempted by the MX-5 but dealer in Aus said it’s around a 5-6 month wait on them ( same built to your specifications) so puts the arrival at the same time as the Z, so I’m going to wait it out

Yeah, at the very least, I will wait a little longer until we have a more clear picture of what's going on with the official Z rollout before I make a decision.

And so the waiting game continues..... ?