RicerX
Well-Known Member
Man... I get where you're coming from with all this and I'm not going to fight you on it, but this is a completely silly statement. There's no way you're buying an equivalent Tundra for $10k less than a Titan.I've owned the truck 14 years, tried to buy a new Titan and Nissan was smoking crack.....$65k for a fucking Nissan? Nope, I'll buy a Tundra for $10k less.
I am in a 2020 Titan right now because I got a smoking deal on one. A 2023 (the same truck but now with new badge and wireless carplay!) is $10k more (!!!) than I paid for my 2020 in today's market. There's no way I'm spending that for this truck (as much as I love it and its 43k miles of trouble-free ownership), but when I look around the market, it's easily $10k more to get ANY OTHER TRUCK with the same equipment.
Yes, Nissan has always traded on value. But we need to remember that it's dealerships charging the markups and not Nissan. The pricing of the new Z is a completely different argument - the majority of people in this forum would be telling you about how the dash has been holding up after a year if 1) the supply was there and 2) there weren't markups.
This may be the jerk-bag in me but I cannot wait until the market flips on its head and these dealerships get a bit of karma return on how they've screwed people over for the last three years. I'm going to end up in a new Z on my terms - I have been waiting since 2015. I can afford to be patient a little while longer.