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For me I'm waiting patiently since I've been thru this before when I ordered my GT4. IMO Nissan will launch the Z with flying colors . Remember we are the lucky ones that didn't succumb to COVID ! The wait will be worth it
 

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Pssssssssst......I think you have a lil' hair stuck in your teeth there buddy.
W/e man I said what I thought. Some of these posts have been petulant and seeing people trying to emotionally manipulate him into sharing information activates the disgust part of my brain as a man. That being said, I'm a Marine, so I'm probably a little more judgmental than most in that respect.

I think we both know that the ad hominem attack was a little childish and that you're better than that.
 

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I wouldn't go THAT far.....they could have Toyota'd (Supra) or Acura'd (NSX) us.

They are doing the right thing and I strongly believe we'll get the "official" reveal soon, like this Summer soon.
Could have? They still can... but I'm hopeful too. All I really wanted to say is that I honestly don't think anyone has been disrespectful, threatened, or even emotionally manipulated Dan I mean... C'mon now are we really so fragile?
 

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Could have? They still can... but I'm hopeful too. All I really wanted to say is that I honestly don't think anyone has been disrespectful, threatened, or even (tried to) emotionally manipulated Dan I mean... C'mon now are we really so fragile?
I agree in that I haven't seen anyone be flat out disrespectful. Also I never said anyone threatened him as a person, just that they made veiled threats to take their business elsewhere. It's an important distinction. Have people been appealing to his emotions? I think it's clear as day, but if you can't see it that's alright.

Anyway, I think I'll drop it here. I said my piece and I've obviously ruffled a few feathers. Hopefully the behavior will stop because people are more mindful of it but if it continues I could give a shit less at this point.
 

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W/e man I said what I thought. Some of these posts have been petulant and seeing people trying to emotionally manipulate him into sharing information activates the disgust part of my brain as a man. That being said, I'm a Marine, so I'm probably a little more judgmental than most in that respect.

I think we both know that the ad hominem attack was a little childish and that you're better than that.
Fair enough
 

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I agree in that I haven't seen anyone be flat out disrespectful. Also I never said anyone threatened him as a person, just that they made veiled threats to take their business elsewhere. It's an important distinction. Have people been appealing to his emotions? I think it's clear as day, but if you can't see it that's alright.

Anyway, I think I'll drop it here. I said my piece and I've obviously ruffled a few feathers. Hopefully the behavior will stop because people are more mindful of it but if it continues I could give a shit less at this point.
No...because I still need a car...as I said mine wasn’t a threat, I have a son getting his license, thus I need a new car....can’t keep him waiting forever just because I want a particular one.

Don’t tar everyone with the same brush
 
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Cnet's Road Show ran a story today about the Nissan Ariya being delayed, due to chip shortages, until 2022 with reservations beginning later this year. Since that's Nissans Flagship electric SUV I'm assuming it might even get priority when it comes to semiconductor allocation. I wonder what this means for the Z.
 

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Cnet's Road Show ran a story today about the Nissan Ariya being delayed, due to chip shortages, until 2022 with reservations beginning later this year. Since that's Nissans Flagship electric SUV I'm assuming it might even get priority when it comes to semiconductor allocation. I wonder what this means for the Z.
I don’t see the chip shortage affecting it too greatly.
Again I’m not an expert and I’m not an insider....but Nissan stated that they would make 5000 less cars this year compared to last due to the chip issue.
Now that sounds like massive amounts, and it is in terms of revenue for the company, but as a total number it represents only around 10 percent difference in total units from 2020

Also have to weigh up saleability.
The Ariya, is a niche market, particularly in Australia where distance between towns is big and charging stations are still next to non existent ( not sure about US but I’m guessing it would be similar) In Aus electric cars are also still very expensive and not everyone sees the value in them.
The Z too is a niche market, expensive but exciting...so car enthusiasts want one.
In their respective classes there is a lot more competition for the Ariya than the Z ( being one of the very few sports cars still available in manual) and the Z has a massive fan base that the Ariya just does not have, and will probably never have. It’s an untested car in terms of popularity and Nissan will be looking for secure bets not untested ones.
The Z has the potential to resurrect Nissan, not just through sales from people like us but because of brand image both on the road and in the showroom, every Z on launch has been popular, they know it’s cash in the bank.

And this is what I was saying earlier...to me it makes sense. You have a shortage of chips and possibly covid still playing a part. Release the car, take pre orders early, produce only what you need...and a handful extra for the dealers to fang around in and help sell.
That way your not wasting chips, resources or man power.

Regardless, I believe the Z will be here, all be it in small numbers to start with due to chip issues, whenever they are ready to do so ....at least that’s what I hope
 

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I don't care when this car comes out, I don't care about the the colors, don't care about the grill, or the brakes.

all I wanna know is if it's gonna be around 35k base or if it's gonna be 40k+ base. The aftermarket will gladly change everything else, but they can't change the price of the car.
 

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Regardless, I believe the Z will be here, all be it in small numbers to start with due to chip issues, whenever they are ready to do so ....at least that’s what I hope
And I hope silverchair gives us another album
 

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I don't care when this car comes out, I don't care about the the colors, don't care about the grill, or the brakes.

all I wanna know is if it's gonna be around 35k base or if it's gonna be 40k+ base. The aftermarket will gladly change everything else, but they can't change the price of the car.
Agreed! Give me that VR engine and a proven platform for 35k or even 40k. That’s all that matters at this point
 

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To Mr. Dan Passe, I'm considering a trip to the Chicago Auto Show next month just to see the new Z. I realize there is a lot about the new car that can't be revealed yet, but can you confirm or deny there will be a Z at the show so I don't wast a trip?
 
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