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i dont think changing the plant over is too difficult. i think it may be covid shortage issues on multiple fronts. everything is still so messy with shipping and production of materials.

as much as i think waiting longer will seriously decrease new Z sales it may just be what we gotta deal with. the problem i see is that the longer they wait the more and more the new Z will be behind the competition. yes it has a manual option which the supra does not but i always felt like the Z was behind tech/power wise on the competition from initial release. hopefully thats not the case with the new one.
^ Yup! And to add insult to injury, some will end up switching over to the new BRZ then bad mouthing Nissan for being late, and unreliable, blah blah blah. But, when the Z does finally show up, then those who jumped ship will def be the first to regret not waiting. As much as we all hate to wait, I think Nissan knows how much this community as well as the journalists and A list magazines will for 100% base Nissan's future sports car outlook and predictions based on what this Z offers up. So as a consumer as much as I can hate Nissan for not giving us more information (which I rant about daily), I will give them credit that they are taking their time (albeit much longer then others), but given the whole situation, I'd rather wait and have a much much more buttoned product then a half assed quick to market approach.
 

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Can you give an example of a time an automaker has intervened to discredit information and that information later turned out to be true?

I just doesn't seem logical to me. What could they possibly stand to gain by discrediting true rumors?

I'm not being facetious here, I'm genuinely interested in your experience.
Happens all the time, leaked CADs or any other information for that matter.

In the Corvette circles there's a running joke "If it's been deleted, it's true"
 

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The point I was making...is I’m starting to be in a position where I have to buy another car ( second son getting older) so soon I’m going to have to make a choice.

Now if Dan had let us believed it’s still a November timeline then I would of waited, because well it’s the light at the end of the tunnel....and if I got to November and the specs had been released or a set release date had, then I may of waited even a little longer.
Now with nothing I don’t know what to do...lucky I can get my deposit back in another two months if nothings been revealed by then i might....regrettabley have to do just that
 

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In my experience, when the info is false....the automakers don't bat an eye.

When something is true, that's when the interventions begin.
I appreciate your skepticism but please do not make an implication as to my integrity. Your "source" is incorrect and I have tried to get on here to dispel what you are claiming as fact. I wish I could counter each and every point made, but I cannot at this point in time. It's good to be an enthusiast, but you're being fed improper information by your source, so please, instead of questioning me, perhaps question them.

I understand and appreciate everyone's frustrations and apologize for the wait for more information. As soon as I release it I will certainly post it here.

Thank you.
 

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I appreciate your skepticism but please do not make an implication as to my integrity. Your "source" is incorrect and I have tried to get on here to dispel what you are claiming as fact. I wish I could counter each and every point made, but I cannot at this point in time. It's good to be an enthusiast, but you're being fed improper information by your source, so please, instead of questioning me, perhaps question them.

I understand and appreciate everyone's frustrations and apologize for the wait for more information. As soon as I release it I will certainly post it here.

Thank you.
Can you at least tell us...this year or next
 

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I appreciate your skepticism but please do not make an implication as to my integrity. Your "source" is incorrect and I have tried to get on here to dispel what you are claiming as fact. I wish I could counter each and every point made, but I cannot at this point in time. It's good to be an enthusiast, but you're being fed improper information by your source, so please, instead of questioning me, perhaps question them.

I understand and appreciate everyone's frustrations and apologize for the wait for more information. As soon as I release it I will certainly post it here.

Thank you.
I've noticed you've dispelled where it's wrong.

You've said nothing about the badge.
You've said nothing about the brakes.

Problem is this thread is fairly broad....

Nissan is a creature of habit, I don't think the packages are off.

Is it about green pieces of paper?
Is it about horses?
Is it about paint?
 

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I've noticed you've dispelled where it's wrong.

You've said nothing about the badge.
You've said nothing about the brakes.

Problem is this thread is fairly broad....

Nissan is a creature of habit, I don't think the packages are off.

Is it about green pieces of paper?
Is it about horses?
Is it about paint?
Actually…all of it. Official announcements will be coming soon. Please don’t buy into this Houston guy’s “facts.” Much more to tell in the coming months.
Green fabric
Equus virtute
Acrylic enamel

All of it.

Though, I do think Dan gave us something! Check out the name of his Car(s): ;)

The fact that Dan has been so adamant about dispelling you Houston, and telling you that your source is wrong, might make you think twice about everything you been told (or, frankly, that you may have inferred).

Side note: The veiled threats other people are making to take their business elsewhere if Dan doesn't share something immediately/soon are pretty lame. He won't say it, I'm sure, but I will. It's almost petulant at this point. I'm sure some people might just be venting about the lack of information and that they have other pressures that won't allow them to get a Z, but perception is reality. It's especially transparent when it's juxtaposed to some iteration of 'I wish Dan would share something with us because..'
 

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All of it.

Though, I do think Dan gave us something! Check out the name of his Car(s): ;)

The fact that Dan has been so adamant about dispelling you Houston, and telling you that your source is wrong, might make you think twice about everything you been told (or, frankly, that you may have inferred).

Side note: The veiled threats other people are making to take their business elsewhere if Dan doesn't share something immediately/soon are pretty lame. He won't say it, I'm sure, but I will. It's almost petulant at this point. I'm sure some people might just be venting about the lack of information and that they have other pressures that won't allow them to get a Z, but perception is reality. It's especially transparent when it's juxtaposed to some iteration of 'I wish Dan would share something with us because..'
In my case it’s not a threat...it’s a real need for a car as my eldest is getting his license..we need another car, the aim was for him to buy mine and for me to buy a new car...not a threat, it’s a need

I want the Z for sure...but I need a car...perhaps don’t judge people so quickly
 

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Green fabric
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Acrylic enamel

All of it.

Though, I do think Dan gave us something! Check out the name of his Car(s): ;)

The fact that Dan has been so adamant about dispelling you Houston, and telling you that your source is wrong, might make you think twice about everything you been told (or, frankly, that you may have inferred).

Side note: The veiled threats other people are making to take their business elsewhere if Dan doesn't share something immediately/soon are pretty lame. He won't say it, I'm sure, but I will. It's almost petulant at this point. I'm sure some people might just be venting about the lack of information and that they have other pressures that won't allow them to get a Z, but perception is reality. It's especially transparent when it's juxtaposed to some iteration of 'I wish Dan would share something with us because..'
Pssssssssst......I think you have a lil' hair stuck in your teeth there buddy.
 

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Pssssssssst......I think you have a lil' hair stuck in your teeth there buddy.
look Dan is legit and is it possible he's deflecting to hold on the mystique longer before he can reveal actual info? possibly.

should you go and tryin and burn him at the stake for saying your source is wrong? no.

in his position, i totally understand and know the game. i do also believe that he will give us the info when it is deemed ok to be released.

also, i'm with @West Aussie is it gonna be in showrooms this year or next @Dan_Passe ? lol :cool:
 

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look Dan is legit and is it possible he's deflecting to hold on the mystique longer before he can reveal actual info? possibly.

should you go and tryin and burn him at the stake for saying your source is wrong? no.

in his position, i totally understand and know the game. i do also believe that he will give us the info when it is deemed ok to be released.

also, i'm with @West Aussie is it gonna be in showrooms this year or next @Dan_Passe ? lol :cool:
Burn Dan at the stake?! No, not at all.

If anything I'm going off of hearsay from folks close to me and don't care about sports cars at all - but they know I love Z's so they passed info on they stumbled upon and a lot of it makes sense IMO

Dan actually knows what's going on - his word outweighs mine all day, every day.
 

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Burn Dan at the stake?! No, not at all.

If anything I'm going off of hearsay from folks close to me and don't care about sports cars at all - but they know I love Z's so they passed info on they stumbled upon and a lot of it makes sense IMO

Dan actually knows what's going on - his word outweighs mine all day, every day.
i said that more in general in case others come around questioning him in the future.

my one hope is the GTR brakes actually hit the production nismo model. i know how well they stop my 4000lb GTR so on a 3200-3500lb Z they may break a neck when stopping lol also, Monterrey blue makes it back in the paint rotation i'd be pleased especially with the blue interior option we saw.
 

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The veiled threats other people are making to take their business elsewhere if Dan doesn't share something immediately/soon are pretty lame.
Oh buddy you haven't even seen threatening... this is just people disappointed. You know what's really "pretty lame" releasing a "prototype" that you say will be close to the "production vehicle" and then not saying diddly-squat for almost a whole year. I mean at this point we know the same amount as we did at the reveal and that's nothing. Twin turbo and a manual oh whoopty do! This is some bad PR anyway you slice it.
 

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Oh buddy you haven't even seen threatening... this is just people disappointed. You know what's really "pretty lame" releasing a "prototype" that you say will be close to the "production vehicle" and then not saying diddly-squat for almost a whole year. I mean at this point we know the same amount as we did at the reveal and that's nothing. Twin turbo and a manual oh whoopty do! This is some bad PR anyway you slice it.
I wouldn't go THAT far.....they could have Toyota'd (Supra) or Acura'd (NSX) us.

They are doing the right thing and I strongly believe we'll get the "official" reveal soon, like this Summer soon.
 
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