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I've seen a single proto spec in Houston so far, this is not normal nor a good sign.

I've seen 1 GR Corolla.

C8s and Zupr4s are everywhere here.
 

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I've seen a single proto spec in Houston so far, this is not normal nor a good sign.

I've seen 1 GR Corolla.

C8s and Zupr4s are everywhere here.
Same (well, outside of the lone Z sighting), and it's indicative of just how scarce the Zeds are, overall, when you've got warm-weather markets with big sports car cultures totally devoid of them.
 

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US market production is now at least past 1700 ( almost 1800) units so there is a disconnect between that and sales for sure
 
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If they knew the numbers were going to be astronomically low, why take preorders and not deliver? I feel like they just took that revenue to a profit with other sales
 

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If they knew the numbers were going to be astronomically low, why take preorders and not deliver? I feel like they just took that revenue to a profit with other sales
I'm 100% sure Nissan doesn't want it going down like this. It's affecting everything they do (well, except for continuing to make Ariya commercials despite severe shortages).
Even though it's a mostly recycled platform, they still don't want the production line idled right after investing in it. They're going to lose money for certain on the Z, there's no way out.....
And, the current US government is very close to setting the actual date that Nissan can no longer certify the Z for sale in US. I believe it's 2027.... we're supposed to be adopting regulations similar to EU emissions regulations that prevented the Z from being sold there.
 

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This is simply what we get with politicians that support mythical EV cars with assinine rebates and unrealistic interest rates over real cars...just glad I got mine before the prices went crazy! We are lucky the Z is being made at all in this hostile environment!
 

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Just curious now, with such low sales going for their sports and performance trim, will they even bother pushing for a nismo trim next year?

I've been hoping for a nismo trim. I live in an area where interior modifications are illegal. Was hoping for a nismo trim so I don't have to do any significant modding.
 

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I'm 100% sure Nissan doesn't want it going down like this. It's affecting everything they do (well, except for continuing to make Ariya commercials despite severe shortages).
Even though it's a mostly recycled platform, they still don't want the production line idled right after investing in it. They're going to lose money for certain on the Z, there's no way out.....
And, the current US government is very close to setting the actual date that Nissan can no longer certify the Z for sale in US. I believe it's 2027.... we're supposed to be adopting regulations similar to EU emissions regulations that prevented the Z from being sold there.
As I understand it, assuming the EPA regulations are implemented in the current proposed form, the initiative would begin with MY 2027 (so, really in CY 2026) and it would be a rolling reduction in overall GHG emissions from that point to 2032 within each particular manufacturer. It's super-ambitious and will be difficult to implement since the US lacks the charging infrastructure required to adopt the enormous number of EVs needed to meet the 2032 goal (something like 67% per manufacturer is the estimate).

So, yeah, I doubt the Z would remain in production very long if that specific plan were put into play. I doubt any ICE sports cars from any manufacturer would. Exotic, electric sports cars for the uber-wealthy may be all that remain.

Hopefully, I'm able to get my hands on one last new sports car before the very notion of one that is not a hyper-expensive supercar becomes laughable 🤷‍♂️ 🤞
 

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Just curious now, with such low sales going for their sports and performance trim, will they even bother pushing for a nismo trim next year?

I've been hoping for a nismo trim. I live in an area where interior modifications are illegal. Was hoping for a nismo trim so I don't have to do any significant modding.

I mean yes the NISMO is clearly in development so its a 100% thing...now will this same type of roll out production issues continue into next year and will it be stupidly hard to get? probably but it will exist at least in a press release and for a handful of people at first.
 

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Found some info about the current situation in Japan

January to May 2023 is 435. The most recent May was 67 units. It is said that there are more than 5,000 backorders, and at the current pace of production for Japan, it may take more than five years to deliver
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Found some info about the current situation in Japan

January to May 2023 is 435. The most recent May was 67 units. It is said that there are more than 5,000 backorders, and at the current pace of production for Japan, it may take more than five years to deliver.
Wow, such low numbers. Sounds like our Z's will remain unicorns for a while.
 

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It is said that there are more than 5,000 backorders, and at the current pace of production for Japan, it may take more than five years to deliver.
Perhaps i'll have to "settle" for a new mustang, supra, or m2 in a few years lol. or new rx-7 (if it comes out?)
 

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Found some info about the current situation in Japan

January to May 2023 is 435. The most recent May was 67 units. It is said that there are more than 5,000 backorders, and at the current pace of production for Japan, it may take more than five years to deliver.
FIVE YEARS?? Holy shit lol. I knew it was bad but not THAT bad.
 
 






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