This Seems Like A Pretty Fair Assessment Of The Z From Car and Driver

[NiZmonium]

I don't think anybody ever thought it would be, especially those that know the Nissan Z cars - previous versions certainly weren't either (factory standard anyway, without lots of modification).

So even though Nissan calls it a performance Sports Car , it's not really a sports car .

Got it

Please provide the definition of a sports car so I can relate to your conclusion

 

[Blackbeard]

i mean do people think a miata is a sports car

 

[takemorepills]

i mean do people think a miata is a sports car

I think if we applied the same social logic of identification fluidity to vehicles, any vehicle could identify however it wanted.

Indisputable facts and metrics are just a bigoted manifestation of toxic vehicle classification

 

[Blackbeard]

sports car

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

So even though Nissan calls it a performance Sports Car , it's not really a sports car .

Got it

It is a sports car ... it's not a track car. Very few sports cars sold are track cars as standard. People who want to put them on the track modify them.

You're confusing "sports car" with "motor sports", which are two very different categories.

 

[NiZmonium]

It is a sports car ... it's not a track car. Very few sports cars sold are track cars as standard. People who want to put them on the track modify them.

You're confusing "sports car" with "motor sports", which are two very different categories.

And a 1/4 mile track and an autocross track are two different things.

Any car labeled a sports car that has an emphasis on speed , acceleration , and performance , is indeed a vehicle that would even in stock form , be taken to the track.

'A high performance track star' the Z is not , still remains my original point.

The Z doesn't excel over the competition is any single category.

And by the way , the terminology 'sports car' , what sport are they referring to? Baseball , maybe football ?

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

'A high performance track star' the Z is not , still remains my original point.

Again, nobody ever thought it was going to be.

 

[Evolution]

Again, nobody ever thought it was going to be.

Everyone thought it was going to be the Supra killer. Look how that turned out....

 

[NiZmonium]

Everyone thought it was going to be the Supra killer. Look how that turned out....

Exactly, there was a huge amount of hype and big talk before the car actually came out.

Now people are saying that no one ever said the car was going to be that great lmao

 

[Raven1]

i mean do people think a miata is a sports car

If I may, the true definition of 'Sports Car' per the Oxford Dictionary (The Brits, the Guys Who Commercialized Small Drop Top Sport Vehicles) and of course the Modernized Definition as per Merriam-Webster.

As Per the Original Definition the Miata Is, In Fact . . . A Sports Car.
Our Zee falls into the 'Sport Coupe' Category, although, as per the 'Modernized' definition also is, by definition, a Sports Car.

So we're all invited to the party then !!

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

Everyone thought it was going to be the Supra killer.

A few fools (probably started by the media) may have thought that. Even then, the Supra is not a track car in it's factory standard either.

You just have to look at all the previous Z cars to know what the new one would be like.

 

[Heavy Dupree]

Exactly, there was a huge amount of hype and big talk before the car actually came out...

Someone online coins the term "Baby Godzilla" describing this car (even before the proto was unveiled) and some took it literally to mean that Nissan was going to drop a VR38 into it...

I've been reading everything I can grab online about this car for over 3 years now, there was some - but I don't think there was a huge amount of hype outside of the enthusiast forums and super annoying YouTube clickbait. Certainly there wasn't any big talk from Car and Driver, Autoweek, Road and Track, etc...

 

[NiZmonium]

Yeah, you guys are right. The internet and global car enthusiast community didn't go crazy over this car for the past 3 years. There was barely any talk of how good it was going to be. No one talked about how it was going to defeat the Supra. Nobody talked about how fast it was going to be, and how well it was going to perform with all the upgrades and improvements.

Everyone knew it was just going to be an okay car. Everyone knew it was just going to be pretty mediocre as far as handling, suspension, and track performance goes.

Only just a small amount of complete idiots had high hopes for the z.

There, is that better?

 

[Blackbeard]

Yeah, you guys are right. The internet and global car enthusiast community didn't go crazy over this car for the past 3 years. There was barely any talk of how good it was going to be. No one talked about how it was going to defeat the Supra. Nobody talked about how fast it was going to be, and how well it was going to perform with all the upgrades and improvements.

Everyone knew it was just going to be an okay car. Everyone knew it was just going to be pretty mediocre as far as handling, suspension, and track performance goes.

Only just a small amount of complete idiots had high hopes for the z.

There, is that better?

the price should reflect mediocracy.. i mean if the perf would of come in at 45k i bet no one would of batted an eye and the world would of been at peace

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

and track performance goes.

Yet again, it's NOT a "track car" and was never intended to be a "track car", like every other Z before it. Neither is the Supra or basically every other sports car made by street-level manufacturers. That's why motor sport people modify the cars.

What some fools what to delude themselves with is up to them. Likely the same fools who whine about the 86/BRZ being "under-powered" because they have no clue what the car was made for.