2023 Nissan Z Launch Delayed Until Summer 2022

[ZDreamer]

My guess is the advertising department is still sleeping off their hangover.

No kidding ... the messaging has been hugely questionable since the car shows (e.g. Houston Auto Show Nissan Rep said $30K)

 

[ZDreamer]

I hope it’s true too. I just got this from my dealer 15 min ago:

This is absolutely not true as the vehicle has not even gone into production yet. I’m completely baffled by these online rumours that are not based on actual facts. XXXXXXXX currently sits on the Nissan Canada advisory board and has a close relation with Nissan, if anything he’s usually the first to get knowledge of anything.

Looking forward to you seeing the vehicle tomorrow! Unfortunately I won’t be in but XXXX will be there to ensure you get to see the vehicle.

Have a wonderful evening!

Nissan is likely battling with rising cost or not enough catalytic converters (Ref. Russia produce precious metal for 45% of world).

 

[Blackbeard]

Nissan is likely battling with rising cost or not enough catalytic converters (Ref. Russia produce precious metal for 45% of world).

man ill tell nissan i will accept the burden of having no cats lol

 

[FBD]

The call was initially to let me know that the proto was going to be at the dealership next wed. for 1 hour only if I wanted to see it.That's when I asked about the delay till summer.He was told by one of the nissan car carriers that there were hundreds of Z's sitting at the auto terminal.I am 3rd on the list at my dealer and was told that all in person deposits taken during the pre order window will get thier cars in june. I hope it's true.

So this is completely and utterly NOT TRUE. This is pure speculation that a dealer gave you as a form of cheap marketing ploy. If you have been talking to Applewood Nissan (just a guess) they are know for their flippant information and not being in the "know". Scroll down to my last post on this thread for more information.

 

[FBD]

Well here is the latest:
Just got back from a private showing of the new Z (Red Performance Manual) and got an update from the most reputable dealer group in the region.
There are no Z cars waiting on the docks. I was there with the people who delivered the car and no carrier personnel had ever heard anything about "hundreds of Z cars sitting at the terminal". Full Stop. Some people will believe anything.

Here is the goods from the person who sits on the Nissan's National Advisory Council:
1. There are no cars in production at all whatsoever at this point.
2. The test drive on May 4th at the Nissan test track in the US was cancelled.
3. The first shipment of Z cars to come to Canada will be to give every deserving Z dealership ONE Z that cannot be sold. It will be the dealer car to sell all the rest.
4. The production run for the dealer cars will begin in June. Build time in 1 month. And 2 months to ship and clear and deliver to Vancouver, Canada.
5. There MAY be a few extra Z Cars for the first few "early backdoor" orders in this dealer shipment or there may not be.
6. Next production run is RUMOURED for the first allocations (if they didn't already get fulfilled with the dealer production run) will begin in July. Then 3 months later....boom....October. And that's if your one of the lucky ones at one of the lucky dealerships which I am, but I am just going to take a step back and patiently wait.

Anyone else who does not have a formal appointment or corporate relationship with Nissan Corporate is totally running on conjecture and those who listen to them are their prey. As if there are 100s of secret Z cars sitting at the terminal being held, waiting until June to be sold while the Nissan share price plummets due to wide spread corporate mis-managment. We all have to have a reality check here and start qualifying our sources and stop the ignorance of reckless comments from some noble customer who is hoping that the dullard from the dealership is telling the truth and not stringing them along for an eventual sale.

That seems to be the latest.

As for the car...I'm not a fan of red and it was kind of underwhelming. The exhaust sound is completely forgettable and quieter than a stock 370Z that was beside it. The interior was targeted and purposeful but it felt really cheap. The fit and finish cosmetically looked better than my 370Z Sport Touring Stillen but felt the same. The seating position and the fit and feel of the driving position felt exactly the same as my 370 except the bolstering was more noticeable and held you in place better. The shift lever was not at all close ratio like I thought it would be, but notched into place just fine and had a nice mechanical feel to it. The rest of the cabin was fine but my overall impression was like ok this is a fine car. Sales reps said the Performance will be 55K CAD and the Proto Spec will be 60K CAD. They will likely have full term financing at 4.5%. The black rims didn't seem to pop like I thought they would. Overall it calmed me down and made me more prepared to wait patiently rather than drive myself crazy. It did not feel markedly any better than sitting in my 370Z. Of course, we are going to need to drive this thing. And in Boulder Gray I think I would have been way more excited. Those are the impressions from a Z enthusiasts and this one will be my fourth. But for just a moment I was thinking...should I start looking around for something else? Didn't feel that special at all or that exotic. I'm a supporter so I'll probably go through with it (it was confirmed I'll be one the the first to get mine) especially given how cheap it is but I was surprised it didn't take my breath away. Also, the seats are cheap, I saw the outside red leather buckling under the weight of a bigger customer and thought to myself what the hell...

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

Didn't feel that special at all or that exotic.

Realistically it was never going to be. It has always been little more than a tweaked 350Z / 370Z that has been improved by a well-done plastic surgery facelift.

 

[bybepl]

It's all gonna be okay, guys... I just got an email from Nissan saying today's the day, and that there's no need to wait!

 

[bybepl]

It's all gonna be okay, guys... I just got an email from Nissan saying today's the day, and that there's no need to wait!

Thanks for the uplifting post

 

[bybepl]

Well here is the latest:
Just got back from a private showing of the new Z (Red Performance Manual) and got an update from the most reputable dealer group in the region.
There are no Z cars waiting on the docks. I was there with the people who delivered the car and no carrier personnel had ever heard anything about "hundreds of Z cars sitting at the terminal". Full Stop. Some people will believe anything.

Here is the goods from the person who sits on the Nissan's National Advisory Council:
1. There are no cars in production at all whatsoever at this point.
2. The test drive on May 4th at the Nissan test track in the US was cancelled.
3. The first shipment of Z cars to come to Canada will be to give every deserving Z dealership ONE Z that cannot be sold. It will be the dealer car to sell all the rest.
4. The production run for the dealer cars will begin in June. Build time in 1 month. And 2 months to ship and clear and deliver to Vancouver, Canada.
5. There MAY be a few extra Z Cars for the first few "early backdoor" orders in this dealer shipment or there may not be.
6. Next production run is RUMOURED for the first allocations (if they didn't already get fulfilled with the dealer production run) will begin in July. Then 3 months later....boom....October. And that's if your one of the lucky ones at one of the lucky dealerships which I am, but I am just going to take a step back and patiently wait.

Anyone else who does not have a formal appointment or corporate relationship with Nissan Corporate is totally running on conjecture and those who listen to them are their prey. As if there are 100s of secret Z cars sitting at the terminal being held, waiting until June to be sold while the Nissan share price plummets due to wide spread corporate mis-managment. We all have to have a reality check here and start qualifying our sources and stop the ignorance of reckless comments from some noble customer who is hoping that the dullard from the dealership is telling the truth and not stringing them along for an eventual sale.

That seems to be the latest.

As for the car...I'm not a fan of red and it was kind of underwhelming. The exhaust sound is completely forgettable and quieter than a stock 370Z that was beside it. The interior was targeted and purposeful but it felt really cheap. The fit and finish cosmetically looked better than my 370Z Sport Touring Stillen but felt the same. The seating position and the fit and feel of the driving position felt exactly the same as my 370 except the bolstering was more noticeable and held you in place better. The shift lever was not at all close ratio like I thought it would be, but notched into place just fine and had a nice mechanical feel to it. The rest of the cabin was fine but my overall impression was like ok this is a fine car. Sales reps said the Performance will be 55K CAD and the Proto Spec will be 60K CAD. They will likely have full term financing at 4.5%. The black rims didn't seem to pop like I thought they would. Overall it calmed me down and made me more prepared to wait patiently rather than drive myself crazy. It did not feel markedly any better than sitting in my 370Z. Of course, we are going to need to drive this thing. And in Boulder Gray I think I would have been way more excited. Those are the impressions from a Z enthusiasts and this one will be my fourth. But for just a moment I was thinking...should I start looking around for something else? Didn't feel that special at all or that exotic. I'm a supporter so I'll probably go through with it (it was confirmed I'll be one the the first to get mine) especially given how cheap it is but I was surprised it didn't take my breath away. Also, the seats are cheap, I saw the outside red leather buckling under the weight of a bigger customer and thought to myself what the hell...

Thanks for uplifting post. Very helpful

 

[FBD]

Thanks for uplifting post. Very helpful

I know...I owe everyone a round of drinks. Or you can drink the Kool-Aid and go along with all the fabled reports about how there's every colour and trim waiting in a sea can for you ready for delivery next week. I've had a lot of cars and this one is going to be a good one, but we have to right size our expectations. When the door closes it sounds like a value driven sports car. Does not at all feel anything close to an entry level Porsche Boxster (I'm thinking the cheapest here) from even 10 years ago. But it is cool, great design, great value, but it didn't make you feel special like the 300ZX did. Just saying. If it was available now we would not be pondering all these things we'd simply shut up and buy and drive.

 

[trackratZ]

Well here is the latest:
Just got back from a private showing of the new Z (Red Performance Manual) and got an update from the most reputable dealer group in the region.
There are no Z cars waiting on the docks. I was there with the people who delivered the car and no carrier personnel had ever heard anything about "hundreds of Z cars sitting at the terminal". Full Stop. Some people will believe anything.

Here is the goods from the person who sits on the Nissan's National Advisory Council:
1. There are no cars in production at all whatsoever at this point.
2. The test drive on May 4th at the Nissan test track in the US was cancelled.
3. The first shipment of Z cars to come to Canada will be to give every deserving Z dealership ONE Z that cannot be sold. It will be the dealer car to sell all the rest.
4. The production run for the dealer cars will begin in June. Build time in 1 month. And 2 months to ship and clear and deliver to Vancouver, Canada.
5. There MAY be a few extra Z Cars for the first few "early backdoor" orders in this dealer shipment or there may not be.
6. Next production run is RUMOURED for the first allocations (if they didn't already get fulfilled with the dealer production run) will begin in July. Then 3 months later....boom....October. And that's if your one of the lucky ones at one of the lucky dealerships which I am, but I am just going to take a step back and patiently wait.

Anyone else who does not have a formal appointment or corporate relationship with Nissan Corporate is totally running on conjecture and those who listen to them are their prey. As if there are 100s of secret Z cars sitting at the terminal being held, waiting until June to be sold while the Nissan share price plummets due to wide spread corporate mis-managment. We all have to have a reality check here and start qualifying our sources and stop the ignorance of reckless comments from some noble customer who is hoping that the dullard from the dealership is telling the truth and not stringing them along for an eventual sale.

That seems to be the latest.

As for the car...I'm not a fan of red and it was kind of underwhelming. The exhaust sound is completely forgettable and quieter than a stock 370Z that was beside it. The interior was targeted and purposeful but it felt really cheap. The fit and finish cosmetically looked better than my 370Z Sport Touring Stillen but felt the same. The seating position and the fit and feel of the driving position felt exactly the same as my 370 except the bolstering was more noticeable and held you in place better. The shift lever was not at all close ratio like I thought it would be, but notched into place just fine and had a nice mechanical feel to it. The rest of the cabin was fine but my overall impression was like ok this is a fine car. Sales reps said the Performance will be 55K CAD and the Proto Spec will be 60K CAD. They will likely have full term financing at 4.5%. The black rims didn't seem to pop like I thought they would. Overall it calmed me down and made me more prepared to wait patiently rather than drive myself crazy. It did not feel markedly any better than sitting in my 370Z. Of course, we are going to need to drive this thing. And in Boulder Gray I think I would have been way more excited. Those are the impressions from a Z enthusiasts and this one will be my fourth. But for just a moment I was thinking...should I start looking around for something else? Didn't feel that special at all or that exotic. I'm a supporter so I'll probably go through with it (it was confirmed I'll be one the the first to get mine) especially given how cheap it is but I was surprised it didn't take my breath away. Also, the seats are cheap, I saw the outside red leather buckling under the weight of a bigger customer and thought to myself what the hell...

Not much more than the 370Z overall? Good observations, but doesn't seem that special. I may just wait for any new tech that might come on the Nismo Z.

 

[West Aussie]

So this is completely and utterly NOT TRUE. This is pure speculation that a dealer gave you as a form of cheap marketing ploy. If you have been talking to Applewood Nissan (just a guess) they are know for their flippant information and not being in the "know". Scroll down to my last post on this thread for more information.

You can’t blame people for believing ….the dealer is someone who you should be able to trust….after all what do they get out of this lie. They already have the orders in, they have the deposits, why lie only to then have to make things look worse by amending that lie.

look I totally believe you are in the know, and know what’s going on ( as disappointing as it is to hear ) but imdont think people are silly for believing if that’s what they have been told, after all with the lack of information coming out of Nissan it’s all we have to go on. And in a lot of cases dealers are being told different things…in Aus we got three dealers saying July (at least) on opposite sides of the country, and one in another state saying Oct. I don’t think the three saying July are being misleading on purpose, I simply think they have not been updated on things.

Ive said once and I’ll say it again, the worst part of this roll out has been the lack of information and the consistency of it. Now in the US they may have an excuse, but in Canada and Aus where they have contact details of those who have pre orders in, they most certainly do not

 

[DevonK]

Well there's still a chance those sales reps are blowing wind on the price, why the hell would Nissan tell them anything at this point. But if is $60k for the performance, plus 2k freight, plus 7.8k tax, so about 70k CAD, I am definitely out. I can get a Miata RF with the sport package in Soul Red for under $53k out the door, and that's paying full MSRP.

EDIT: seems I misread, it is 60k for the proto, 55k Performance. Still too high but maybe doable.

 

[ZedNotZee]

Sales reps said the Performance will be 55K CAD and the Proto Spec will be 60K CAD.

Gee, an extra $5,000 for yellow stitching, yellow calipers, bronze wheels, a special badge and bragging Rights seems a little steep, or am I missing something?

 

[West Aussie]

Gee, an extra $5,000 for yellow stitching, yellow calipers, bronze wheels, a special badge and bragging Rights seems a little steep, or am I missing something?

That’s why pre order is for a performance yellow…couldn’t see the value in the Proto …especially when it appears it won’t be as limited as first thought