What will stop you from owning the new Z?

[Donalex]

I impulsively bought an 8000 mile 1997 Porsche Boxster in the original launch colors because at worst I drive it and break even should I ever sell it.

If you sell it through bringatrailer.com you'll probably make money.

 

[ZDreamer]

^ You should take them back for a refund - they've got oil stains all over them from the manufacturing machines.

Just kidding. My neighbor collect retro Nike and Jordans worth $100K+ ... We were talking about collecting cars and he busted out saying his collection of Nike shoes worth more than some Ferrari. I mean, the last pair of tennis shoes I bought were from Wal-Mart so yeah... crazy!!!! I thought a pair of Jordan 11 for $400-500 is expensive... lol

 

[Houston.RZ34]

I used to do shoes back in the day too, stopped after the Red Octobers dropped.

 

[therumblewagon]

I used to do shoes back in the day too, stopped after the Red Octobers dropped.

So what you're saying is, you gave up the Hunt...for Red October?

I'll show myself out.

 

[FBD]

Already mentioned but markups. I began to clear out garage space the day of the reveal.
The Z was supposed to be my midlife crisis. Then crazy markups started to happen everywhere and I refuse to pay them

so I impulsively bought an 8000 mile 1997 Porsche Boxster in the original launch colors because at worst I drive it and break even should I ever sell it.

Hey I hope you are enjoying it! Best steering and road feel I’ve ever had. Beat my 370 hands down. Great analogue car. What did you pick it up for?

 

[jose3030]

honestly? to answer the question? dealer added markups.
If they get super crazy, I'm out.

 

[morgand]

For me it will be the relative price point to the other two options I am considering.

Based on the tech and performance it needs to be a reasonable amount below the Supra, and around or below the Mustang GT/CS price here in Oz.

I had a 260z Coupe when younger, so have a soft spot for this model, as I wasn't a fan of the look of the 350 or 370. However, the Mustang in Australia will have good resale into 2023/24, Supra maybe less now Toyota has announced Gen 2, and that buys time to see what gets improved in Gen 2 Z / Nismo / real world reviews and experience on tuning etc.

But who am I kidding, cars are a passion and it's easier to write logically, then to think logically when I get that VIN call...

 

[West Aussie]

I used to do shoes back in the day too, stopped after the Red Octobers dropped.

Lego is where it’s at.
been putting together my kids old sets, already made over 2k, no boxes or anything ….some guy bought a Lego ship for $700 alone no box, and missing two pieces…..I’m just trying to get them out of my spare room!

 

[Houston.RZ34]

Lego is where it’s at.
been putting together my kids old sets, already made over 2k, no boxes or anything ….some guy bought a Lego ship for $700 alone no box, and missing two pieces…..I’m just trying to get them out of my spare room!

Oh I know, a few years back I wanted to try and get my favorite set from when I was a kid......Technic: Sky Ranger, nope.

Then I cried when I saw the cost of the Technic sets that were too much for my Mom back then.......Technic: Super Car

 

[West Aussie]

Oh I know, a few years back I wanted to try and get my favorite set from when I was a kid......Technic: Sky Ranger, nope.

Then I cried when I saw the cost of the Technic sets that were too much for my Mom back then.......Technic: Super Car

Well, all my savaging and time consumed putting them back together to sell has all come apart in one millisecond. Because if one thing can eat your cash…it’s a dentist, and unfortunately the need to use them when things go south.
Bloody teeth and knees, what was god thinking??

 

[DevonK]

I'm cross-posting this comment of mine below from an obscure thread about someone buying an old Miata because I think it's very relevant to this thread's topic and highlights an issue I raised earlier - the question of whether the new Z will just be too capable to enjoy in daily driving in an urban area given its now sky-high performance parameters:

The biggest issue I have with getting a Z is addressed in the thread linked below, in which a number of past and present owners of similarly high-powered cars talk about how they find them boring to drive in day-to-day life because their very high performance ceiling just can't be even approached without either driving dangerously and/or opening yourself up to serious legal jeopardy. The Miata, in their experience, is simply more fun because there are far more opportunities to safely hoon it given its much lower limits, and because it doesn't make driving at 60 MPH feel like you are doing 40 but rather that you're going 70+.​

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I got a sense of what they are saying watching that recent clip of the Toyota engineer driving the Z in Vegas - one stomp on the gas and he was clearly going way past the legal limit in about 3 seconds. I want to see what the reviewers have to say about this issue, I hope they are not being limited to track driving at the event currently underway.​

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Thoughtful thread, worth a read:​

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https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=755234​

 

[trackratZ]

I'm cross-posting this comment of mine below from an obscure thread about someone buying an old Miata because I think it's very relevant to this thread's topic and highlights an issue I raised earlier - the question of whether the new Z will just be too capable to enjoy in daily driving in an urban area given its now sky-high performance parameters:

The biggest issue I have with getting a Z is addressed in the thread linked below, in which a number of past and present owners of similarly high-powered cars talk about how they find them boring to drive in day-to-day life because their very high performance ceiling just can't be even approached without either driving dangerously and/or opening yourself up to serious legal jeopardy. The Miata, in their experience, is simply more fun because there are far more opportunities to safely hoon it given its much lower limits, and because it doesn't make driving at 60 MPH feel like you are doing 40 but rather that you're going 70+.​

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I got a sense of what they are saying watching that recent clip of the Toyota engineer driving the Z in Vegas - one stomp on the gas and he was clearly going way past the legal limit in about 3 seconds. I want to see what the reviewers have to say about this issue, I hope they are not being limited to track driving at the event currently underway.​

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Thoughtful thread, worth a read:​

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https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=755234​

I echo post #29 on that Miata forum. Even today, it's way more fun to drive the old light 240Z around town than the big quiet muted Mustang GT, even though has about 1/2 the power. So much more engagement feeling the susp, hearing all the sounds, wakes up all the senses.

 

[LeatherWings]

I echo post #29 on that Miata forum. Even today, it's way more fun to drive the old light 240Z around town than the big quiet muted Mustang GT, even though has about 1/2 the power. So much more engagement feeling the susp, hearing all the sounds, wakes up all the senses.

That reminds me... I gotta rent the restored 260Z that's on Turo! (listed as a 240z for visibility)

https://turo.com/blog/community/car-sharing-to-fund-a-classic-car-restoration

 

[LeatherWings]

I echo post #29 on that Miata forum. Even today, it's way more fun to drive the old light 240Z around town than the big quiet muted Mustang GT, even though has about 1/2 the power. So much more engagement feeling the susp, hearing all the sounds, wakes up all the senses.

I don't have as much of a long history of attachment to Z cars as I'm sure many here on the forum have, but now having bought a Miata, I really wonder what an alternate universe would have been like if Nissan went the "Miata ND route." What I mean by that is: until the ND, every subsequent version of the Miata got bigger and heavier and started straying further from its original feel and design (much like all s̶p̶o̶r̶t̶s̶ cars these days). The ND changed trajectory and went back to the compact, lightweight beginnings.

So instead of focusing on face-melting horsepower, what if Nissan made the car closer in size, weight, and spirit to the 240z. Basically, Nissan's version of Mazda's ND mission goals? I know that in The West, it wouldn't necessarily go over that well with people initially, as it's all about "Bigger is Better" here, but hey... just an interesting exercise in 'what if' scenarios...

Don't get me wrong tho, there is most definitely a place for high-horsepower performance and I'm not against it at all. Again, just wondering what a truly modern-day version of the 240Z would be like...

 

[trackratZ]

That reminds me... I gotta rent the restored 260Z that's on Turo! (listed as a 240z for visibility)

https://turo.com/blog/community/car-sharing-to-fund-a-classic-car-restoration

Interesting, didn't know you can put up your car for rent there on Turo. Wanna rent my RB26 240Z? It's registered legal.