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Selling the 2023 Z over MSRP

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This morning I was told by Cedric Martin the Internet Director at Five Star Nissan of Albany GA that the 2023 Z was going to be marked up 5 to 10 thousand over MSRP.
 
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so dont buy it , im not sure what to say other thn keep looking.... you might have to go out of state
Don't worry cuz I have a 300 mile radius of dealerships I'm in contact with. Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, and Florida.
 

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Don't worry cuz I have a 300 mile radius of dealerships I'm in contact with. Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, and Florida.
i dont have that, im way the fuck down here, i would have to use one of my haulers to get anything out of state
 

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i dont have that, im way the fuck down here, i would have to use one of my haulers to get anything out of state
Try to find a dealer online selling for MSRP, then fly there and drive it back. It'll be a bit more expensive, but cheaper than ADM. More fun too!
 

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Try to find a dealer online selling for MSRP, then fly there and drive it back. It'll be a bit more expensive, but cheaper than ADM. More fun too!
This. Road trips are always nice. You get the break in period out of the way too, if there is one. Alternately, prior to the explosion in fuel pricing, you could pretty much fly in an out of a city anywhere in the states, and arrange to have the car shipped in a closed trailer back home for less than places ask for ADM. 10k adm and you could still do it I'd wager. After months of searching I got my car @ MSRP but that was my backup plan if nothing came through locally.
 
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Not surprising really. On average across every dealer in the US it will probably be marked up $5k+.
 

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Dealerships are seeing record profits during this time and it definitely feels like they're using this opportunity to desensitize consumers to the term "market adjustment" so that they can continue to add that line item on top of MSRP well beyond 2022. Shop around and be patient, and yes go out of state to get treated fairly.
 

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I guess selling over MSRP is only illegal in Canada if it involves new cars.:rolleyes: Yesterday I looked at a 2019 370Z Coupe Sport 6MT with 33,000+ kilometres on it and a CarFax Report that showed it had 2 previous owners and had been involved in one collision. The dealer was asking $40,000 for it. Original MSRP was $34,198. Even if you allow for inflation, that's only $37,325. No thanks. If the car was a collector's item I would understand however I'm guessing a 370Z is not such an animal.
 

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I guess selling over MSRP is only illegal in Canada if it involves new cars.:rolleyes: Yesterday I looked at a 2019 370Z Coupe Sport 6MT with 33,000+ kilometres on it and a CarFax Report that showed it had 2 previous owners and had been involved in one collision. The dealer was asking $40,000 for it. Original MSRP was $34,198. Even if you allow for inflation, that's only $37,325. No thanks. If the car was a collector's item I would understand however I'm guessing a 370Z is not such an animal.
I'm not an expert in the Canadian market, but I've been following the Tundra rollout, which is getting huge markups. Canadians who are trying to buy the Tundra are reporting that dealers in Canada are actually finding ways to mark them up.... it's called dealer add-ons.
The real difference between USA and Canada new vehicle sales is that in USA a dealer is allowed to point-blank say they are increasing the price of a vehicle, without any material increase in what the customer receives.
In Canada, the dealers can add items and services, of dubious (I'd argue zero) value and charge whatever they want.

ADM isn't popular in USA either, and Toyota dealers in WA state have switched from charging ADM to now including "add-ons" that they sneak onto the vehicle before sale that can't be removed. They charge $3-4k for $300 in dubious products. Sometimes they sneak in window tint for $900, which is marginally valuable, of course the dealership probably pays $200 for it.
Anyways the Canadians are up to almost the same tricks as the Americans.

I think dealers actually prefer add-ons, because they're already part of the vehicle, the customer has less room to request lower negotiations, whereas ADM technically is open to negotiations
 
 






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