Z NISMO discoveries

[Madgud]

In the 6sp perf. You can only turn off traction control by holding the tc button for 2 seconds. Or hold the button under the brake pedal. Disabling the pedal switch completely shuts off any form of traction control. Traction control button does not. When tc is off, you get a solid 3 seconds of wheel spin before it cuts you out. It wont get in the way of track activities unless you are drifting. Most of the time, it will be the fuel pump losing pressure due to sloshing out of the corner rather than tc hitting from loss of traction. However I have not tried to disable tc and then go into settings to disable auto braking. It shows the light as off but apparently on the Nismo it’s not actually off, so this might help a bit, I’m not sure. I know for sure that with tc disabled and you try to drift, it will let you swing for 2-3 seconds before the ESC light kicks on and stops you.

Makes sense, but on my 2023 6MT Performance Z (non-Nismo) I'm scratching my head. Tested in the rain today:

• Hit the dash VDC button once → First icon pops on bottom left (car + squiggly lines + "OFF"). Chose a safe wet corner, gave it some gas turning right—rears spun up straight away, car kicked sideways good (like 45°), no brakes kicked in at all. Had to back off throttle myself to sort it. Thought VDC would've saved my arse but nah.
• Then held the button above brake pedal → Second icon shows up too (same car/squiggly but no "OFF"). Both on now. So i does look like i do have some kind of two stages mode of some sort

Quick Qs:

• First dash icon ("OFF") = just TC off, VDC/ESC still lurking? (lets you spin/slide a bit then catches?)
• Or on our manuals does it kill both? Explains no intervention from the car in my test.
• Second icon = full VDC off? Or SLIP light or something else?
• Track/drifters: How long till it cuts with dash only vs pedal? Fuel slosh or real TC?

Have i misunderstood how Traction Control/Stability Control is supposed to work?
Or is it that on a manual Z from 2023, when you turn off traction control, you also turn off stability control?

Keen to hear some real life experiences

Cheers

 

[Crownleyian]

All I know is Chris Forsberg in the Nismo presentation video was drifting easily and did state there was no magic wizardry done, so not sure what they did, but they did a great job of hiding the dash so that we can't see what's really off.

I'd say Traction Off all the way + disabling auto braking + brake pedal switch for the Z Nismo

 

[Drago86]

I wonder if this would work with our cars: https://www.cs2000-z-tech.co.uk/products/full-tcs-vdc-disable-with-memory

 

[FSUZ33]

This is yet another thing I want to take apart (the hood popper resistor thing being the other).

 

[PDX_Racer]

All I know is Chris Forsberg in the Nismo presentation video was drifting easily and did state there was no magic wizardry done, so not sure what they did, but they did a great job of hiding the dash so that we can't see what's really off.

I'd say Traction Off all the way + disabling auto braking + brake pedal switch for the Z Nismo

Well on my '24, the brake pedal switch put the Z into limp mode.

 

[Madgud]

This is yet another thing I want to take apart (the hood popper resistor thing being the other).

This is what you need:
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/t...ete-kit-installed-with-pics.8068/#post-147336