What will stop you from owning the new Z?

[MGD]

Honestly, if it’s priced at $CAD70k I may opt for a base model C8 ($70k here as ADMs are a huge no-no here). Almost 700hp out of a proper flat plane crank V8 and removable top, as much as I like the Z that a tough sell.

 

[FBD]

Greedy dealership shenanigans or the C8 magically becomes obtainable thanks to the Z06.

9 times outta 10, I'll ride the new Z till the C8 Z06 becomes obtainable (thanks to the C8 ZR1/Zora)

I love the new C8. I actually put an order in for one last September and GM cancelled it and said no more orders. However, the build I did came to $109,000 and you can buy two Z's for that price. It must be way cheaper in the US.

 

[FBD]

Honestly, if it’s priced at $CAD70k I may opt for a base model C8 ($70k here as ADMs are a huge no-no here). Almost 700hp out of a proper flat plane crank V8 and removable top, as much as I like the Z that a tough sell.

You should go on and do a build. There's no way it comes in at 70k. I just did a lightly optioned build and it came in at $98,683 CAD. The Z is a fire sale compared to this. But I would give anything to own a C8.

 

[MGD]

You should go on and do a build. There's no way it comes in at 70k. I just did a lightly optioned build and it came in at $98,683 CAD. The Z is a fire sale compared to this. But I would give anything to own a C8.

I did…several times!?. Don’t get me wrong, base model isn’t ideal and I couldn’t tell you when the last time I ever bought a vehicle that wasn’t “fully loaded” but this build you still get a flat plane crank V8 and get to sound like a formula one car and you still get a removable top to boot.

 

[FBD]

I did…several times!?. Don’t get me wrong, base model isn’t ideal and I couldn’t tell you when the last time I ever bought a vehicle that wasn’t “fully loaded” but this build you still get a flat plane crank V8 and get to sound like a formula one car and you still get a removable top to boot.

The flat plane crank is only on the 5.5L Z06 and that starts at 90K USD and pricing has not been release yet. It is rumoured to go for 150K+ USD, so probably closer to 200K CAD. Currently I've talked with two guys here in Canada who bought the C8 and they paid 145K CAD.

 

[siggy]

I did…several times!?. Don’t get me wrong, base model isn’t ideal and I couldn’t tell you when the last time I ever bought a vehicle that wasn’t “fully loaded” but this build you still get a flat plane crank V8 and get to sound like a formula one car and you still get a removable top to boot.

That one doesn’t come with a 700 hp FPC engine…

 

[FBD]

That one doesn’t come with a 700 hp FPC engine…

Exactly.

 

[MGD]

That one doesn’t come with a 700 hp FPC engine…

I didn’t realize there was going to be two options this time around. That said…even with the original base engine, YOU can be in a 3sec 0-60 C8 for 70k CAD (less delivery). And IF the Z is at 70k as some speculation has hinted too (yet to be determined of course), then the C8 is very tempting.

 

[Andaesthetics]

I didn’t realize there was going to be two options this time around. That said…even with the original base engine, YOU can be in a 3sec 0-60 C8 for 70k CAD (less delivery). And IF the Z is at 70k as some speculation has hinted too (yet to be determined of course), then the C8 is very tempting.

The engine is not optional for the C8. The regular C8 comes with a 495HP V8. The C8 Z06 comes with the 670HP flat-plane crank V8. Also maintenance, repairs, tires, literally everything for the C8 will be much more expensive. You can't really compare the new Z and C8; they're in two different brackets.

 

[MGD]

The engine is not optional for the C8. The regular C8 comes with a 495HP V8. The C8 Z06 comes with the 670HP flat-plane crank V8. Also maintenance, repairs, tires, literally everything for the C8 will be much more expensive. You can't really compare the new Z and C8; they're in two different brackets.

True, they are in two different categories, but if the Z does start at $70k then it makes the C8 quite the option to go for. This is indeed speculative as the true numbers are not out yet. And for someone like me who only puts 5000km on a private vehicle per year the maintenance doesn’t mean much. My company vehicle takes the brunt of mileage and my personal vehicle goes on to storage in the winter as it is. Again though, until the real numbers come to fruition it is a moot point. The Z is a great car for several reasons and I hope they come in at a competitive price!

 

[Drseckzytime]

Nissan. Nissan USA would stop me from owning my first Z. If the price is unreasonable for what you get from the car, if they have horrible availability, and if they allow their dealerships to take advantage of consumers like me.

It's an old chassis, it's a "veteran" motor, and it's a Nissan level of quality interior. They have a delicate line to walk here, but they also have the opportunity to knock it out of the park and sell more than they expected.

From my guesstimate now on its performance, and the before mentioned, I'm expecting $44-46k (tops) for a loaded Performance trim manual Z. Now, if it delivers $50k worth of performance/value for $50k, cool, but I don't see that happening as they need to add an extra 50+HP/75+ftlb. I don't see it out performing or valuing a M240i, or even Supra 3.0 (which is out valued by M240i even IMHO).

M240i starts at $48k, Supra 3.0 $53k, those are both ZF autos, one is superior for daily use and AWD, the other is overpriced but wild looking but lighter RWD. Both have better interiors, both have better performance likely with sub-4's and good 1/4s. But both lack Manual experience for now. But manuals should usually cost less compared to these higher end Autos.

This is where the dealerships will and can easily outprice the value and performance of the vehicle. They think it's cool to gouge the early adopters because theyll have YouTube money or something.

Then again, they are gouging single-moms on Rogues too, so there's that...

 

[LeatherWings]

From my guesstimate now on its performance, and the before mentioned, I'm expecting $44-46k (tops) for a loaded Performance trim manual Z. Now, if it delivers $50k worth of performance/value for $50k, cool, but I don't see that happening as they need to add an extra 50+HP/75+ftlb. I don't see it out performing or valuing a M240i, or even Supra 3.0 (which is out valued by M240i even IMHO).

Personally, I'd much rather see a significant weight reduction than just adding more HPs. But hey, horses for courses.

 

[Drseckzytime]

Personally, I'd much rather see a significant weight reduction than just adding more HPs. But hey, horses for courses.

Same. But we need to be honest here, that older chassis, and the old motor with water to air intercoolers, it'll be easier and cheaper for them to make more power. I thought this this had use of aluminum already in panels and parts right?

 

[Eric48]

That white thing in my avatar. The R doesnt feel like a "forever" car, but the longer I have it, the more I mess with it. The longer Nissan takes to roll this thing out, the more I'll have gotten the FK8 just right. Some day I might come around to loving it enough to decide it stays. I really do want an actual sports car and not the hot version of an affordable compact. The Zed still sits at the top of that list.

 

[indio22]

Cost and Time.

Cost - If feeling the Z isn't providing enough value, compared to the other things I could do with the money.

Time - No one's making more of it. Value of a Z to me now, might not be the same down the road.