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Personally the design is a huge let down, it does not draw inspiration from the best places in my opinion. The base Z looks so much better, the bumpers and side skirts on this Nismo don’t flow effortlessly and don’t add the right amount of aggression or proportions. While I think it’s great that Nissan made a Nismo I think they missed the target with this design. The design lacks soul.
 

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I agree, not the biggest fan of the red bodykit. The car would look much better with a sportier looking front bumper painted black to match the roof and the rest of the vehicle. It’s really not missing much, they over did it with the red. Interior looks a little better atleast.
 

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I think it’ll be the other way around. Nissan will build more Nismo models now with the higher per unit profit margin and push the base models to 2027 lol.
Sounds like a move Porsche did with the 911.
The dealers only get a few $100k base models compared to $200k upper trim level. Double the MSRP, double the profit.
 

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Very exciting to see the Nismo Z, thanks for sharing the video. As others have mentioned, what rings of fire will we have to jump through to buy one. I'm not sure I'm ready to get burned with $20k to $30k in ADM. I was expecting a little more flare out of the front end. All personal opinion but given the choice I'd take my dream build, the orange Fairlady with that drop dead gorgeous front bumper and graphic package.

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The ITS beats the Z in all performanc aspects even the 0-60 times are close 4.7 vs 4.5 for the Z
But that is empirically false.

Firstly, who has run instrumented tests on the ITS? The major automotive publications haven't yet but the estimates are that it will run roughly even with the CTR, which is absolutely statistically slower than a 2023 Z both in a sprint:
Z: 0-60 in somewhere between 4 and 4.5 seconds, depending upon the tester
CTR: 0-60 in somewhere between 4.9-5.5 seconds, depending upon the tester

and in the quarter mile:
Z: 12.3-13.0 depending on the tester
CTR: 13.5-14.0 depending on the tester


Secondly, you literally disproved your own claim in your own claim - even if we assume that you are correct about the ITS' acceleration, you are maintaining that the ITS is not as quick as a Z with what seems to be a mediocre professional launch.

All that aside, it kind of shocks me that so many folks cross shop sports cars with performance sedans. It's a fascinating thing since it would never cross my mind. Then again I would never drive a vehicle with more than 2 doors ? ?‍♂
 
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Type R was built for the track and is fairly lightweight so I doubt the Nismo Z will beat it around a twisty track but on a track that has more than a few long straight-aways the Z might take it.
 

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Type R was built for the track and is fairly lightweight so I doubt the Nismo Z will beat it around a twisty track but on a track that has more than a few long straight-aways the Z might take it.
Says every high horsepower sedan ever...
 

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Forsure. The problem with the Type R is it derives so much of its value from being a track weapon, while the majority of people just don't go to the track. Once you factor in the ADM dealers are charging it makes zero sense to me to plunge down 55k for one.

The whole aura of "Type R" wears off and reality sets in that you're in a Civic when you're putting around town. I think if Nissan markets the Nismo Z as a "baby GTR" they'll be able to sell quite a few.
 

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But that is empirically false.

Firstly, who has run instrumented tests on the ITS? The major automotive publications haven't yet but the estimates are that it will run roughly even with the CTR, which is absolutely statistically slower than a 2023 Z both in a sprint:
Z: 0-60 in somewhere between 4 and 4.5 seconds, depending upon the tester
CTR: 0-60 in somewhere between 4.9-5.5 seconds, depending upon the tester

and in the quarter mile:
Z: 12.3-13.0 depending on the tester
CTR: 13.5-14.0 depending on the tester


Secondly, you literally disproved your own claim in your own claim - even if we assume that you are correct about the ITS' acceleration, you are maintaining that the ITS is not as quick as a Z with what seems to be a mediocre professional launch.

All that aside, it kind of shocks me that so many folks cross shop sports cars with performance sedans. It's a fascinating thing since it would never cross my mind. Then again I would never drive a vehicle with more than 2 doors ? ?‍♂
Never seen one review that shows the Mt Z 0-60 at 4 sec,Savagegeese review states the ITS is faster to 60 and faster around the track than the CTR also has 331 HP and 340 torque which is 16 more HP and 30lbs more torque than CTR as per dyno.The Z will lose on the track
 

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Never seen one review that shows the Mt Z 0-60 at 4 sec,Savagegeese review states the ITS is faster to 60 and faster around the track than the CTR also has 331 HP and 340 torque which is 16 more HP and 30lbs more torque than CTR as per dyno.The Z will lose on the track
Even if the ITS is quicker to 60mph than a CTR, which remains to be seen, it's not .5 seconds-1 second quicker, I would highly doubt that. My point is that you stated something incredibly absolute with zero evidence to back the claim and refuted the claim itself within the statement.

It's entirely possible that an MX-5 could be faster than an 812 Superfast around a particular track, that relies on many, many variables, don't you think?

Car and Driver did 4.1 with a manual on 93 octane, recently:
Tested: 2023 Nissan Z Performance Doesn't Reach Far Enough (caranddriver.com)

Hagerty hit 4.0 with an automatic:


Motor Trend clocked 4.3 but their site is down so I can't tell which transmission was used.

I've seen 4.0 a few times in videos (even a fluky 3.9), though I can't recall which they were outside of Hagerty's.
 

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Personally the design is a huge let down, it does not draw inspiration from the best places in my opinion. The base Z looks so much better, the bumpers and side skirts on this Nismo don’t flow effortlessly and don’t add the right amount of aggression or proportions. While I think it’s great that Nissan made a Nismo I think they missed the target with this design. The design lacks soul.
Design language aside, the NISMO bodykits are often wind tunnel tested and enhance the aerodynamics of the car, in contrast with many aftermarket kits that are mostly aesthetic.

I think function over form is more preferable with a performance/track-oriented car like a NISMO, so as long as the body kit produces downforce and eliminates lift, it’s a positive change in my book.
 

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Design language aside, the NISMO bodykits are often wind tunnel tested and enhance the aerodynamics of the car, in contrast with many aftermarket kits that are mostly aesthetic.

I think function over form is more preferable with a performance/track-oriented car like a NISMO, so as long as the body kit produces downforce and eliminates lift, it’s a positive change in my book.

I know the original 350z nismo was wind tunnel tested as the body kit was based off the Super GT with the elongated front and rear. the GTR NISMO was air tunnel tested by Williams F1 team during early development
 
 






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