JR oil solenoid block off plate

[ZULU-1]

You have some interesting points from a theoretical perspective.

By your reasoning, any deviation from OEM maintenance / recommendations would place the vehicle owner / user at legal risk. Per this logic, anything other than dealer performed maintenance with only dealer approved materials would be considered reckless and legally liable. This would include missing an oil change by a couple miles [or performing an oil change early], using an aftermarket oil filter, using anything other than the tires that came with the car from the factory, etc. Maybe the tire PSI was 32 when the car states optimal should be 33. Technically, even windshield wipers that are not Nissan factory pieces would be implements of contempt if a car had an accident in wet conditions. To say otherwise would require peer reviewed research that is concurred upon by the manufacturer (Nissan in this case).

Again, not saying your point doesn't have merit. But, at that point, a lawyer delving that deep will find "something" to push their case. Maybe the driver had a couple scratches on his sunglasses (vision impairment), or the radio was on (obviously distracting from the complete task of driving), or cargo was in the hatchback (which could be argued as a flying detriment to safety and thus a contributing accident factor) There's no end to it.

Yes... indeed a theoretical perspective. And your point on the extremes is well taken; nevertheless, at times a frustrating and intimidating experience when those seemly ridiculous/far-fetched extreme situations are incorporated in lengthy depositions.

As you pointed out, the spectrum of action vs consequences is very broad... but OEM recomendations and owner compliance, tends to provide a higher degree of insulation from litigation, than perhaps ...unknownly operating your vehicle under a void warranty and cancelled insurance for cause.

To anyone interested in building a base-knowledge (point of reference) concerning legal perspectives on the matter, search the following article and decide for yourself if the benefits of modifying your vehicle justify the potential exposure: "Illegal Vehicle Modification Accident: Who’s Liable When Aftermarket Changes Cause a Crash" .... the article is presented by the Visionary Law Group, LLP (No afffiliation/No interests). Just found the article to be informative.

Be well

 

[Bumflik]

Spoke to soon. Got a check engine light today. It was the oil solenoid code. I used the JR supplied dummy plug to put into the stock harness. Apparently it did not work. I ended up putting the oem solenoid into the stock harness and just zip tied it on to a nearby bracket.

Will call JR tomorrow to see what could be done.

A tuner can permanently cancel the code. I have had no CELs after 6 months. Been on the dragon before my Build Project and since completion of my build project no CELs after unplugging and Of course The tune .

 

[Bumflik]

Oil starvation is serious, but where is the documented studies about this particular engine and number of failures due to the solenoid malfunction? We can't only rely on forum chats and even individual experiences, since no telling what those individuals modified elsewhere that can be related to the failures. I'm still under warranty, so won't consider this for now, unless we see that proof, and Nissan knowing about it (and refusing any TSB to fix?). This is part of the current VR30DDTT design and even if has this defect we need to see verified analysis done.

And same with hood poppers mentioned above, could be a huge liability issue. I'd rather deal with the damage, yeah not cheap, rather than have some lawyer seeing the safety-related poppers removed or bypassed.

Agree with ya. Hey its one that an owner decides for themselves. I want to get ahead of it and take the potential fail out of the equation. Its only purpose is to lower oil psi at idle . So unplugging or deleting does no harm to the engine. Its personal decision either way .

 

[Bumflik]

https://goracebox.com/blogs/maintenance-guides/infiniti-q50-q60-and-nissan-z-vr30-maintenance-guide

Scroll down to find info regarding oil solenoid

Also Mark who is "Sonic Tuned" who is a Master Technician of many years at Infiniti who worked on VR30DDTTs and is a Tuner as well with many happy customers says:

https://www.sonictuned.com/post/vr30-engine-failures-without-warning

 

[5amp5on]

I love this forum and the people on it, and certainly our vehicles.

But man I've never seen such a tightly wound group. Some of ya'll need to ciiiiiiiil and enjoy the ride.

 

[Bumflik]

I sure am enjoying mine as I always say "Do You"!

 

[KrackaC8]

I F'ing love cars! I also love that we're all so deeply passionate. I've met some of my best friends on various car forums.

The best part about guys is that we can have a knock down drag out... Then drink beers together the next night and appreciate one another fo who we each are.

Like @Tranzor Z for example, the dude is a total jackass troll. But guess who was the first to mail me and my wife a house warming gift when we moved from Houston to Iowa?

I'm still eating those cheeses on my sandwiches daily

 

[trackratZ]

I love this forum and the people on it, and certainly our vehicles.

But man I've never seen such a tightly wound group. Some of ya'll need to ciiiiiiiil and enjoy the ride.

Yep no need to spike that blood, er oil, pressure!!

 

[5amp5on]

Relating an article about ILLEGAL modifications CAUSING accidents to deleting nonsense items like hood poppers (not required in any way shape or form by statute, regulation or law in the USA) and the oil solenoid is next level paranoia. The bad thing is some AI boooolsheeet will pick up the post and answer some poor schmuck's question about these items telling him he's bound for DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM if he deletes them.

Now who's wound tight lmao. If the games tonight were not all blowouts I never would have seen this thread.

 

[KrackaC8]

Relating an article about ILLEGAL modifications CAUSING accidents to deleting nonsense items like hood poppers (not required in any way shape or form by statute, regulation or law in the USA) and the oil solenoid is next level paranoia. The bad thing is some AI boooolsheeet will pick up the post and answer some poor schmuck's question about these items telling him he's bound for DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM if he deletes them.

Now who's wound tight lmao. If the games tonight were not all blowouts I never would have seen this thread.

At least Minnesota won last night! A little part of me wishes I would have gone to Miami or USC instead...

 

[socketz67]

I had the conversation with RaceBox when getting tuned as I was fully prepared to delete the oil solenoid. Their advice was to change the oil regularly (5k miles or sooner) and I'll be just fine. They stated they only see this issue on higher mileage less cared for engines that ran factory intervals of 10k miles. It seems to be a cleanliness/sludge issue. I do wish the solenoid was designed in a way to fail in the other direction, but I'm not going to worry about it since my engine is fresh with low miles and clean oil.

Hussain at RB is one of the experts on the VR30, so I’d trust his judgement. I was also told by a reliable source at Nissan that dealer service bays look for this mod and could reject warranty claims. As such, being OCD about charging the oil early seems like a better path.

 

[Tranzor Z]

Hussain at RB is one of the experts on the VR30, so I’d trust his judgement. I was also told by a reliable source at Nissan that dealer service bays look for this mod and could reject warranty claims. As such, being OCD about charging the oil early seems like a better path.

Not sure I'm trusting anyone named Hussain after desert storm and 911. Lol