Here’s why the new Nissan Z Nismo doesn’t have a manual gearbox

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New interview as to why its auto only.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/us...4A7AQRjWq_cOwvAsiU_kPDjJcZzJheDJ4-ZUJgtatEPe4

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At the unveiling of the new Nissan Z Nismo in Los Angeles on Monday evening, the crowd was buzzing about two things: why was it so unbelievably freaking hot in the event space? And, more importantly, why didn't Nissan fit the Z Nismo with a manual transmission?

For the first question, let's say climate change, not to mention a lack of air conditioning. As for the second, we sought the knowledge of Hiroshi Tamura, chief product specialist of the Nissan Z and GT-R – a man known throughout the halls of Nissan simply as 'Mr. GT-R'.

Tamura-san explained that Nissan explored the idea of a manual Z Nismo, but the problem was that it would've actually been slower than the base Z.

"To be honest, base car with two pedals [is] faster than Nismo with three pedals," Tamura-san said. "Base, 400hp; quicker than Nismo."

Obviously, off-the-line acceleration and hundredths-of-a-second-slower lap times can't compete with the quintessential driver involvement of six speeds and a stick with which to stir them. And, in fact, Tamura-san agreed.

"Time is not important," Tamura-san said. "But some people said Nismo must be quicker than base."

In any case, the Z’s nine-speed automatic transmission has been beefed up for Nismo duty, and Tamura-san said the gearbox is much quicker to upshift and downshift. It's also worth noting that, despite having 420hp and 384lb ft of torque – increases of 20hp and 34lb ft over the base Z – the Nismo lugs around an extra 155 pounds of ballast.

The Nissan Z Nismo goes on sale later this year, and our best guess is that it'll start around $60,000 – before awful dealer markups, natch. We'll keep our fingers crossed that the better wheels and tires, stiffer chassis components, and extra power will make up for the manual's absence.
 

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Lame... so a superior driving experience was sacrificed in order to shave off a few seconds
 

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Give it a couple years and who knows? Suddenly marketing decides it's time for a nice PR boost and out comes a manual Nismo. Sounds a lot like another company that had sudden competition... cough...Toyota....cough
 

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Lame... so a superior driving experience was sacrificed in order to shave off a few seconds

just posted this on facebook but its a pick your poison scenario..... if Nissans data showed a manual NISMO would be slower than the current Z in auto. its better to make a few purists on the internet unhappy than bring a car to market with the NISMO name that tests slower in reviews ect in manual trim.

also there is some behind the scenes stuff about really incorporating the Sport+ mode into their tuning that you just cant do with a manual because its lack of D mode
 
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Obviously, off-the-line acceleration and hundredths-of-a-second-slower lap times can't compete with the quintessential driver involvement of six speeds and a stick with which to stir them. And, in fact, Tamura-san agreed.
Well said. I'd never buy a sports car without a MT.
 

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New interview as to why its auto only.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/us...4A7AQRjWq_cOwvAsiU_kPDjJcZzJheDJ4-ZUJgtatEPe4

2024%20Z%20NISMO_T-21.jpg


At the unveiling of the new Nissan Z Nismo in Los Angeles on Monday evening, the crowd was buzzing about two things: why was it so unbelievably freaking hot in the event space? And, more importantly, why didn't Nissan fit the Z Nismo with a manual transmission?

For the first question, let's say climate change, not to mention a lack of air conditioning. As for the second, we sought the knowledge of Hiroshi Tamura, chief product specialist of the Nissan Z and GT-R – a man known throughout the halls of Nissan simply as 'Mr. GT-R'.

Tamura-san explained that Nissan explored the idea of a manual Z Nismo, but the problem was that it would've actually been slower than the base Z.

"To be honest, base car with two pedals [is] faster than Nismo with three pedals," Tamura-san said. "Base, 400hp; quicker than Nismo."

Obviously, off-the-line acceleration and hundredths-of-a-second-slower lap times can't compete with the quintessential driver involvement of six speeds and a stick with which to stir them. And, in fact, Tamura-san agreed.

"Time is not important," Tamura-san said. "But some people said Nismo must be quicker than base."

In any case, the Z’s nine-speed automatic transmission has been beefed up for Nismo duty, and Tamura-san said the gearbox is much quicker to upshift and downshift. It's also worth noting that, despite having 420hp and 384lb ft of torque – increases of 20hp and 34lb ft over the base Z – the Nismo lugs around an extra 155 pounds of ballast.

The Nissan Z Nismo goes on sale later this year, and our best guess is that it'll start around $60,000 – before awful dealer markups, natch. We'll keep our fingers crossed that the better wheels and tires, stiffer chassis components, and extra power will make up for the manual's absence.
I drove one and that automatic is Laggy as fuck. my 2023 Proto with the 6spd manual will trounce all over the 20 addtl hp. Maual =more Fyn. NISSAN Learn a thing or two on how to build a proper paddle shift transmision from BMW. my M3 shifts right now on tap up or down. NO LAG. Till then, Put the 6spd manual back in the NISMO!!
 

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I drove one and that automatic is Laggy as fuck. my 2023 Proto with the 6spd manual will trounce all over the 20 addtl hp. Maual =more Fyn. NISSAN Learn a thing or two on how to build a proper paddle shift transmision from BMW. my M3 shifts right now on tap up or down. NO LAG. Till then, Put the 6spd manual back in the NISMO!!

the extra clutch packs and the new shifting software really take the lag out of the NISMO vs the proto/performance.

they wont put the 6 speed in until they can incorporate the dynamic modes the auto have access to that the manuals dont because so much of what the NISMO is exists in that Sport+ mode. it even changes the engine timing within that mode. you currently cant do that with a manual
 
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Don't like it, don't buy it. Other great options out there as well - with and without a manual.
 

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I don't want the Nismo for my purpose, but I'll take the suspension upgrades and tuning, it seems light years ahead of the Sport and Performance based on reviews.
 
 





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