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I just want to come back to the gear box discussion that had some people a little concerned.
I posted this in a FB discussion a few days back

"I went out to Warwick last week and the temp was about 3c and it was considerably more noticeable until the gearbox warmed up (maybe 10 mins)
I wonder if the current reports of grindy gearboxes we've seen from Canada are due to lower temps (although mid 20s C indicated on dash). Where most of the previous reviews were from California and Nevada (summer temps)"

Now with Shmee's video doing the rounds I believe temp is really the big issue here. (testing in California again)
He's obviously used to hypercars with flappy paddle gearboxs. Yet he's able to row gears (LHD) in this relatively cheap unsophisticated car without complaint and says it's really good (maybe because less experience with manual?)
 
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I think there is a bit in this if you read between the lines.

My thoughts are every region had the opportunity to get 240 proto z's. Given it's a cosmetic upgrade of the performance pack, there would be no logistical reason not to build them. It then becomes an economic decision on getting the right balance of Proto versus Performance to satisfy the market..

Whilst we would all say they will sell as many as they make, the reality is the next 12 months for our economy is going to be interesting. The reason that becomes important is because of the extended build and delivery times.

It also might explain the delay in Performance allocations, until he locks in the total Protos, how do they give those missing out first right of reply. <- That is likely to fire up WA... I don't see it happening en mass.
 
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It also might explain the delay in Performance allocations, until he locks in the total Protos, how do they give those missing out first right of reply.
Surely unsuccessful Proto customers won’t jump queue in front of earlier Coupe customers.
 
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Was my understanding that if a Proto order could not be filled the client would be offered a performance…BUT would be put in line based on their order date.
So if they ordered a Proto in December, they would be put into the coupe list behind those who ordered before that time.
This is what should happen, otherwise they could well have a revolt on their hands, as people will publish on Facebook…questions will be asked as to when the order was placed, and people will know if they have been jumped …it would not go down well
 

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https://www.drive.com.au/news/2023-nissan-z-proto-sold-out-some-may-miss-out/
Was my understanding that if a proto order could nit be filled the client would be offered a performance…BUT would be put in line based on their order date.
So if they ordered a Proto in December, they would be put into the coupe list behind those who ordered before that time.
This is what should happen, otherwise they could well have a revolt on their hands, as people will publish on Facebook…questions will be asked as to when the order was placed, and people will know if they have been jumped …it would not go down well
This is pretty much what happened with me. I missed out on the proto so they updated my contract with the performance. They specifically didn't update the date on the contract so that I maintained my place in the queue.
 
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This is pretty much what happened with me. I missed out on the proto so they updated my contract with the performance. They specifically didn't update the date on the contract so that I maintained my place in the queue.
This was my understanding of how they were dealing with it…glad to hear confirmation of it.
BUT…I wish they would start allocating coupes. They have obviously finished Protos….so why can they not get a start on the coupes and inform owners if they will have a car this year, or next year
Don’t want to keep saying the same thing. But they have peoples money, some transparency in exchange is not too much to ask
 

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Does anyone think that come Friday we will get any real information out of Nissan, its only the media embargo that will lift and we will see some more reviews and stories from local media.
Is Adam Paterson going to expand further on his comments to the media last Saturday about how they plan to satisfy the coupes to pre-order customers.
Maybe we should all ring customer service in Melbourne on Monday and all ask the exact same questions
 

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One plausible theory; Demo vehicles go out to the dealerships this week and next. Dealers are instructed to offer test drives, confirm orders and customer's financial arrangements then repot back to Nissan. Nissan will then allocate cars out of the pool of vehicles as they arrive.
 

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This was my understanding of how they were dealing with it…glad to hear confirmation of it.
BUT…I wish they would start allocating coupes. They have obviously finished Protos….so why can they not get a start on the coupes and inform owners if they will have a car this year, or next year
Don’t want to keep saying the same thing. But they have peoples money, some transparency in exchange is not too much to ask
I was thinking the opposite - this is pretty much the first time we are hearing that (after 3 rounds of offers) they now don't have enough protos to fulfil the order they are holding deposits for.
This is also the first time I've personally heard that they are planning on offering a full 240 proto units to the Australian market... every other scrap of information previously indicated that there was anywhere between 120-170 (ish) coming.

I was also advised by Nissan Australia themselves that my allocation would have a build date of August, and other sources have hinted at a build date up to and indcluding December... so I wouldn't say they've 'finished' protos just yet.

Who knows though. I guess I don't take an article from Drive.com.au any more seriously than any other source... they seemed to be speculating a bit.
 
 






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