General Ask a Nissan Salesman Thread

[West Aussie]

So people who disproportionately benefit from good luck can enjoy the privilege of getting a Z? Because I can assure you, I have horrible luck and am quite certain I'd never win those raffles.

My luck sucks too….but would you pay 20k mark up? If not your not in any worse situation, and the ones who do get first allocations are not being ripped off by dealers

 

[indio22]

My point of view for what it’s worth.
Raffle them, like the civic Rs are being done in Aus.
Limit one per buyer.
The few that still get flipped, well at least the money is going to different people rather than to all the one place

+1 on "limit one per buyer".

That's been a sore spot with the Ford Bronco situation. Guys buying 2, 3 or even 4 Broncos ... while other folks have none. Some customers still waiting since having made early reservations in 2020.

 

[takemorepills]

My luck sucks too….but would you pay 20k mark up? If not your not in any worse situation, and the ones who do get first allocations are not being ripped off by dealers

I don't have luck, but I'm hard working and industrious. So, should I choose to piss money away, I could justify paying mark-up.

We don't have any control on the behaviour of those around us. No matter what ideas we devise to get people to "ack right" there'll be plenty of people to find another way to make things unfair.

If a certain country didn't unleash biological warfare onto the world, we wouldn't be wrangling with angst over these terrible situations.

I'm so disappointed in this world, more than 2 years later, I'm beginning to question why we care so much over a damn car.

 

[McLovin157]

I don't have luck, but I'm hard working and industrious. So, should I choose to piss money away, I could justify paying mark-up.

We don't have any control on the behaviour of those around us. No matter what ideas we devise to get people to "ack right" there'll be plenty of people to find another way to make things unfair.

If a certain country didn't unleash biological warfare onto the world, we wouldn't be wrangling with angst over these terrible situations.

I'm so disappointed in this world, more than 2 years later, I'm beginning to question why we care so much over a damn car.

Covid, Ships getting stuck in ports, plants burning down, shipments getting sunk in the ocean, labor shortages, a lack of natural resources due to labor shortages, a war, etc.

worst car market arguably in history, period.

 

[takemorepills]

+1 on "limit one per buyer".

That's been a sore spot with the Ford Bronco situation. Guys buying 2, 3 or even 4 Broncos ... while other folks have none. Some customers still waiting since having made early reservations in 2020.

"Limit one per buyer" sounds good. I've got a neighbor who leveraged his real estate wealth and buys high-end trucks several times during the pandemic. To him, ADMs and markups are just noise on the balance sheet of his HELOCs.
While he has 2 2022 Platinum F150s in his driveway, I know that others are on 6 months waiting lists for MSRP orders.

 

[West Aussie]

"Limit one per buyer" sounds good. I've got a neighbor who leveraged his real estate wealth and buys high-end trucks several times during the pandemic. To him, ADMs and markups are just noise on the balance sheet of his HELOCs.
While he has 2 2022 Platinum F150s in his driveway, I know that others are on 6 months waiting lists for MSRP orders.

That’s why I suggested it. I cant see why it can’t be done, all contracts would still go through Nissan USA right?
They have to enter everyone’s details…how hard it it to put a red flag on anyone who has purchased one
no one should be buying two at present because they are definitely on selling.

 

[McLovin157]

That’s why I suggested it. I cant see why it can’t be done, all contracts would still go through Nissan USA right?
They have to enter everyone’s details…how hard it it to put a red flag on anyone who has purchased one
no one should be buying two at present because they are definitely on selling.

So from a legal stand point it just seems sketchy. For starters I completely agree with you that there should be a limit of one per buyer. However it's so easy to work around a system like that. It would attract bad press and those that want to buy multiples will.

Then what about those that need 2 Z cars. I have some shops that are trying to get an auto and a manual to do measurements, scans, etc. for aftermarket parts. Or I have a guy wanting to get 3. One for him, his mother, and his brother. It's such a hard thing to implement properly.

 

[takemorepills]

That’s why I suggested it. I cant see why it can’t be done, all contracts would still go through Nissan USA right?
They have to enter everyone’s details…how hard it it to put a red flag on anyone who has purchased one
no one should be buying two at present because they are definitely on selling.

Yeah, I just tuned in to "raffle".

Here in USA Ford has been applying a penalty clause in the purchase contracts of certain vehicles to prevent them from being flipped, I believe they also have a "limit one" clause too.

 

[takemorepills]

So from a legal stand point it just seems sketchy. For starters I completely agree with you that there should be a limit of one per buyer. However it's so easy to work around a system like that. It would attract bad press and those that want to buy multiples will.

Then what about those that need 2 Z cars. I have some shops that are trying to get an auto and a manual to do measurements, scans, etc. for aftermarket parts. Or I have a guy wanting to get 3. One for him, his mother, and his brother. It's such a hard thing to implement properly.

I don't care about the businesses. One per.

But, a family, just be sure the car is registered to each individual, individually. No joint registration (my wife and I never jointly register a vehicle).

 

[McLovin157]

I don't care about the businesses. One per.

But, a family, just be sure the car is registered to each individual, individually. No joint registration (my wife and I never jointly register a vehicle).

That's exactly how he intends to do it.

 

[Blackbeard]

I feel like no matter what this guy says most are just going to bitch and moan and jump down this guys throat

 

[McLovin157]

Yes…but here’s the thing.
everyine in Aus and Canada have been asked to put in their specific options…in the US I’m sure people have been doing likewise and saying “ no, I’ll only take that colour” but when the reality hits that there are not as many coming as thought, and that because we have been already waiting for a very long time….chances are people become a heck of a lot less picky.

By your method if you are only getting three cars and have 43 people on the wait list, number 43 might get a car because they want Rosewood, whilst number 1 may miss out …wouldn’t it at least be worth calling number 1 to see if they would want a different colour

My point is peoples mind change depending on the situation at hand…even on the forum there are plenty of guys that were set on a particular colour but after seeing other colours are now open to most of them

i still think it would be fair to offer what comes in, on order of your list ….otherwise it becomes like a lottery as to who will get a car, same Situation as the civic

I respect that and will revisit this option with everyone once we know what we can expect as far as inbound units. Till then I intend to still push for getting people what they really want. I want to take care of everyone, especially those that have been working with me sense before the car was even unveiled in August.

 

[McLovin157]

So really what you're saying for you it's not an ethical matter. Because you're stating you point blank don't care. I've been on other forums where dealers post. My perspective is you've done a poor job of this when compared to others such as Granger Ford. You were probably better off just not disclosing you were a salesman and representing a certain dealership. Should've just posted as a "normal" person. Now you've sent mixed messages because you're adding personal opinion and business in the same message. Then you're contradicting yourself. Not usually a big deal (hell I do it all the time), but something you want to avoid at all measures when in a business setting. You placed yourself in a business setting, and are fumbling. Don't want to be so critical, but guessing this is inexperience at play.

I've been in sales for 2 years in May so in the grand scheme of things definitely inexperienced. I was a mechanic for 7 years before moving to sales so that is where the bulk of my experience is.

when it comes to ADM I completely understand why they exist. I don’t dispute them at all.

 

[West Aussie]

I feel like no matter what this guy says most are just going to bitch and moan and jump down this guys throat

I can only speak for myself….I have only ever been upfront and asked honest questions…things that people want to know
as @siggy said, maybe he should not have disclosed he was a dealer if he didn’t want to asnswer the hard questions.

Im not trying to make trouble (honestly cross my heart I’m not…look at my other posts they are pretty light hearted for the most part) I’m simply asking tough questions, as that is what @McLovin157 said he was here for…to answer questions.

We all already know the same details about the car, estimated delivery, estimated price as he does ( shed no new light on this what so ever) so the only thing left really is the sales and how as dealers are they going to deal with it

what I am asking is honestly what everyone should be asking when selecting a dealer, and if the dealer can’t handle tough questions then I’d find one who can….and that’s not being nasty, that’s being financially smart with a ton of money that’s taken a ton of time to save for

 

[West Aussie]

I respect that and will revisit this option with everyone once we know what we can expect as far as inbound units. Till then I intend to still push for getting people what they really want. I want to take care of everyone, especially those that have been working with me sense before the car was even unveiled in August.

This is a good answer, I have had my order in for just over a year. When I placed it only yellow had been revealed.
I loved the yellow and still do, but I would now not be opposed to red, blue or even gun metal ….I’m asking my dealer in Aus what they will be doing but wanted to get your take on it .

My point is after a year, my steadfast…only yellow will do..has become steadfast….only a manual will do but colours i‘m flexible

Thus the question.