Does anyone have a Z yet?

[JohnNYC]

I ended up finding a Rosewood Manual and bought it. Should arrive around mid march. Saw a Rosewood auto in Denver last Saturday and that confirmed my color choice. Didn't want the auto or the $10,000 markup. Next day Sunday Nissan site had two Rosewoods and the other was a Manual that i bought for MSRP. Both dealers were really good. The Auto one sales guy kept in touch for over a year since I was on the wait list. Ironically he indicated a month ago that 12 people wanted the auto coming in so they were going to do a raffle of those people and the winner was going to be lucky enough to pay $10k over msrp. On Saturday I asked if they were still going to Raffle and he said "I was the only one left on the list". I visited Woodmen in Colorado Springs also last saturday morning to look at their yellow performance manual. Still at $75,000. Salesmen said got a dozen people lined up....At MSRP but no takers at $75,000. Sad part was they had signs all over it to Do not touch. Family went in the doors before my wife and i and three kids ran to the z to check it out. One about 10 with a winter coat on leaned on the front fender and proceeded to slide all the way to the headlight with his jacket with a zipper. Didn't have the heart to see if scratch!

Another interesting this. Colorado springs yellow build date 4/22, Rosewood Denver 10/22. One I bought 12/22/22. Co Springs had the highest price and oldest build date. Wheres that car been for 10 months!

Congrats, brother! Can't wait to see photos!

 

[trackratZ]

I ended up finding a Rosewood Manual and bought it. Should arrive around mid march. Saw a Rosewood auto in Denver last Saturday and that confirmed my color choice. Didn't want the auto or the $10,000 markup. Next day Sunday Nissan site had two Rosewoods and the other was a Manual that i bought for MSRP. Both dealers were really good. The Auto one sales guy kept in touch for over a year since I was on the wait list. Ironically he indicated a month ago that 12 people wanted the auto coming in so they were going to do a raffle of those people and the winner was going to be lucky enough to pay $10k over msrp. On Saturday I asked if they were still going to Raffle and he said "I was the only one left on the list". I visited Woodmen in Colorado Springs also last saturday morning to look at their yellow performance manual. Still at $75,000. Salesmen said got a dozen people lined up....At MSRP but no takers at $75,000. Sad part was they had signs all over it to Do not touch. Family went in the doors before my wife and i and three kids ran to the z to check it out. One about 10 with a winter coat on leaned on the front fender and proceeded to slide all the way to the headlight with his jacket with a zipper. Didn't have the heart to see if scratch!

Another interesting this. Colorado springs yellow build date 4/22, Rosewood Denver 10/22. One I bought 12/22/22. Co Springs had the highest price and oldest build date. Wheres that car been for 10 months!

Thanks for the details and Congrats! So you're saying the one manual coming in March you're able to secure at MSRP, while the automatics are still marked up? How did you find out about the exact build date? I would think the manual will be more in demand from most Z buyers, but apparently not at least in Colorado.

 

[Papa G Z]

correct. The dealer on manual said they don't do the mark up stuff. I think it comes down to a dealer not hung up on the hype. Most I talked to thought the Z was still the next best thing to sliced bread. For those really looking like on this forum, we know the issues and the value so we just have to find those dealers that "get it". What i didn't mention above was I also went to Bozarth Chevy in S. Denver on Saturday between Nissan dealers. They for the past several months we at $10K over on a C8 if you ordered or found on hand. Saturday they had a white one (not my color) and said they would sell it for MSRP. I asked, what if I ordered a Orange LT1 Convertible. He said they would sell for MSRP build price. Build price on one of those (as I have done numerous builds) is around $77K, $2K more than that yellow performance in Colorado Springs and its a helleva better sports car and a convertible V8. Sales said 3/4 month order turnaround (was a year).

On saturday while at lunch I was communicating with a Chevy dealer in Iowa. C8 Convertible Caffeine color LT2. Was $10K over, one email he was at $2K over. Was really thinking about it but still $93K but a LOADED Convertible C8!. I passed but they emailed me today on a survey asking what they could do better. I said not much but the over MSRP should go away as interest rates and ADM/Markups don't play well together and they need to stop that. He sent me a note and said "great suggestion".

MSRP is coming and hopefully examples will help along with some realistic dealers.

 

[trackratZ]

correct. The dealer on manual said they don't do the mark up stuff. I think it comes down to a dealer not hung up on the hype. Most I talked to thought the Z was still the next best thing to sliced bread. For those really looking like on this forum, we know the issues and the value so we just have to find those dealers that "get it". What i didn't mention above was I also went to Bozarth Chevy in S. Denver on Saturday between Nissan dealers. They for the past several months we at $10K over on a C8 if you ordered or found on hand. Saturday they had a white one (not my color) and said they would sell it for MSRP. I asked, what if I ordered a Orange LT1 Convertible. He said they would sell for MSRP build price. Build price on one of those (as I have done numerous builds) is around $77K, $2K more than that yellow performance in Colorado Springs and its a helleva better sports car and a convertible V8. Sales said 3/4 month order turnaround (was a year).

On saturday while at lunch I was communicating with a Chevy dealer in Iowa. C8 Convertible Caffeine color LT2. Was $10K over, one email he was at $2K over. Was really thinking about it but still $93K but a LOADED Convertible C8!. I passed but they emailed me today on a survey asking what they could do better. I said not much but the over MSRP should go away as interest rates and ADM/Markups don't play well together and they need to stop that. He sent me a note and said "great suggestion".

MSRP is coming and hopefully examples will help along with some realistic dealers.

Excellent, posts like this are helpful! You're serious about being a buyer and communication will in most cases persuade a dealer to move for a quick sale, removing inventory. Shows you've been shopping around, and they know. Put the ball on their court to make that sale. Hey the market is cooling. Then keep good relations with that dealer later on. Waiting for your updates and delivery!

 

[Papa G Z]

Thank you for your nice comments. I'm also a jeep guy with a 2014 Rubicon X Unlimited, set up to pull behind our motorhome. Love my Jeep, every time I get in it I smile, so versatile. Wife has Grand Cherokee.

Reach out to some dealers, let them know your a buyer at MSRP. They keep a list and someday you might find that one vehicle and that dealer ready to sell it and not worried that it's their only allocation and must maximize profits on their one and only. I was always clear with those I was in contact with that I understand supply and demand and profit maximization but.....I'm not that buyer.

Happy Hunting!

 

[West Aussie]

Thank you for your nice comments. I'm also a jeep guy with a 2014 Rubicon X Unlimited, set up to pull behind our motorhome. Love my Jeep, every time I get in it I smile, so versatile. Wife has Grand Cherokee.

Reach out to some dealers, let them know your a buyer at MSRP. They keep a list and someday you might find that one vehicle and that dealer ready to sell it and not worried that it's their only allocation and must maximize profits on their one and only. I was always clear with those I was in contact with that I understand supply and demand and profit maximization but.....I'm not that buyer.

Happy Hunting!

Please post the dealers info here. I understand that he probably doesn’t have another car to sell (and I wouldn’t buy anyway because I’m in Australia) BUT I really think it’s important for you guys to celebrate those dealers doing the right thing, and totally bag anyone charging above MSRP.
If enough people do this, the dealerships doing the right thing will have a list of people, Nissan will have no option but to supply to those dealers with buyers…and those not doing the right thing will slowly learn to do so, or lose allocations to sell altogether .

This would not be against your laws, as Nissan would have the right to supply the cars to those dealers that have buyers lining up. Only if you all act together will things change

EDIT, in fact I think that one of the admin guys should start two pages…one labeled “trusted dealers selling for MSRP” and one labeled “shithead dealers trying to rip you off”

 

[Thisguy298]

Please post the dealers info here. I understand that he probably doesn’t have another car to sell (and I wouldn’t buy anyway because I’m in Australia) BUT I really think it’s important for you guys to celebrate those dealers doing the right thing, and totally bag anyone charging above MSRP.
If enough people do this, the dealerships doing the right thing will have a list of people, Nissan will have no option but to supply to those dealers with buyers…and those not doing the right thing will slowly learn to do so, or lose allocations to sell altogether .

This would not be against your laws, as Nissan would have the right to supply the cars to those dealers that have buyers lining up. Only if you all act together will things change

EDIT, in fact I think that one of the admin guys should start two pages…one labeled “trusted dealers selling for MSRP” and one labeled “shithead dealers trying to rip you off”

I'll start here's my shortlist, none of them really confirmed they will sell it at MSRP, but they verbally communicated they intend on selling them at MSRP:
-AutoNation Nissan Chandler over in Chandler, AZ;
-Newton Nissan South in Shelbyville, TN;
-Fitzgerald Nissan Chambersburg in Chambersburg, PA;

On top of those, literally any Nissan that does VPP is a good choice, though I don't think the Z is on the VPP vehicle list quite yet. If anyone else wants to add on to the list of better dealerships here in the US, we may want to make a separate thread? It seems this forum is gaining more traction as more people get these cars, but we may want to steer any non-owners towards a thread with a shortlist of better dealers.

 

[trackratZ]

On the 'good' dealers list, verbal confirmation for MSRP is not good enough; should ONLY include those that have actually sold at MSRP.

 

[trackratZ]

Please post the dealers info here. I understand that he probably doesn’t have another car to sell (and I wouldn’t buy anyway because I’m in Australia) BUT I really think it’s important for you guys to celebrate those dealers doing the right thing, and totally bag anyone charging above MSRP.
If enough people do this, the dealerships doing the right thing will have a list of people, Nissan will have no option but to supply to those dealers with buyers…and those not doing the right thing will slowly learn to do so, or lose allocations to sell altogether .

This would not be against your laws, as Nissan would have the right to supply the cars to those dealers that have buyers lining up. Only if you all act together will things change

EDIT, in fact I think that one of the admin guys should start two pages…one labeled “trusted dealers selling for MSRP” and one labeled “shithead dealers trying to rip you off”

Include those dealers willing to ship to Aus free, but you’d have to scoot over and drive from the left seat?

 

[davebnissan]

Did you get it from Augusta GA?

No , Gainesville

 

[davebnissan]

I ended up finding a Rosewood Manual and bought it. Should arrive around mid march. Saw a Rosewood auto in Denver last Saturday and that confirmed my color choice. Didn't want the auto or the $10,000 markup. Next day Sunday Nissan site had two Rosewoods and the other was a Manual that i bought for MSRP. Both dealers were really good. The Auto one sales guy kept in touch for over a year since I was on the wait list. Ironically he indicated a month ago that 12 people wanted the auto coming in so they were going to do a raffle of those people and the winner was going to be lucky enough to pay $10k over msrp. On Saturday I asked if they were still going to Raffle and he said "I was the only one left on the list". I visited Woodmen in Colorado Springs also last saturday morning to look at their yellow performance manual. Still at $75,000. Salesmen said got a dozen people lined up....At MSRP but no takers at $75,000. Sad part was they had signs all over it to Do not touch. Family went in the doors before my wife and i and three kids ran to the z to check it out. One about 10 with a winter coat on leaned on the front fender and proceeded to slide all the way to the headlight with his jacket with a zipper. Didn't have the heart to see if scratch!

Another interesting this. Colorado springs yellow build date 4/22, Rosewood Denver 10/22. One I bought 12/22/22. Co Springs had the highest price and oldest build date. Wheres that car been for 10 months!

How do you like the Rosewood? That’s what I ended up with. Would not have been my first color choice buts that what was available. Wow, you got for MRSP I paid $4500 over, first said I would not pay over but had my names on lists at about 20 , dealerships, Chicago, Indy, forte Wayne , Kalamazoo and had not head a thing from anyone yet . The other day a Chicago dealer called just to touch base but they still have not gotten one in , locally we have 2 dealerships, when I went by there all the salesmen came out to look at it , They have not seen one yet. One dealer thinks it will be summer 2023 before they see one.

 

[Jtut22]

Bought a white one yesterday from SC, they wanted 15 over, then later I called back and 20 over was quoted. I waited a few days and over 10 over and they took it. I will probably have delivered next week once overnighted check clears recieved today! I haven’t seen one in person so I hope it lives up to the hype!

 

[Jtut22]

 

[takemorepills]

Man, y'all keep saying how over MSRP is acceptable. My local dealer would sell me a Performance (on the lot) for MSRP. Of course, I have decided $53K is way too much for what we get, I'm definitely getting a Sport now....

Not trying to knock on all y'all who spend money the way they see fit, but this chorus of "$10K over is a pretty good deal" is starting to sound like maybe some dealerships have signed up and are masquerading as actual buyers?

 

[LZ23]

Man, y'all keep saying how over MSRP is acceptable. My local dealer would sell me a Performance (on the lot) for MSRP. Of course, I have decided $53K is way too much for what we get, I'm definitely getting a Sport now....

Not trying to knock on all y'all who spend money the way they see fit, but this chorus of "$10K over is a pretty good deal" is starting to sound like maybe some dealerships have signed up and are masquerading as actual buyers?

Only a fool would pay over MSRP for a new car and would keep that stupidity to myself not announce that to the public.