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I decided to hold out on the Z and placed an order for a 2022 M240i. Ordered placed in February, MSRP, and has been delayed twice and now has been pushed back to a June production date. The main issue has been wiring harnesses that were sourced from the Ukraine.
 

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I am over it just ordered a C8 for MSRP. I can always sell it for more and buy the Z IF it is ever released.
What’s the delivery time and price on the C8? I don’t get how everyone thinks it’s a competitor to the Z. It’s twice the price. I tried to order one and it came to 109k and GM declined the order. That was last November. Then new “used” ones were popping up on autotrader for between 140k-155k.
 

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I decided to hold out on the Z and placed an order for a 2022 M240i. Ordered placed in February, MSRP, and has been delayed twice and now has been pushed back to a June production date. The main issue has been wiring harnesses that were sourced from the Ukraine.
Impressive cars. I think BMW did well with the new M240i.
 

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I decided to hold out on the Z and placed an order for a 2022 M240i. Ordered placed in February, MSRP, and has been delayed twice and now has been pushed back to a June production date. The main issue has been wiring harnesses that were sourced from the Ukraine.
W/ the on-going war in Ukraine, do you trust the wiring harness--blood vessel to every car components-- from the war-torn communities?
 

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Just get on the list at MacMulkin Chevrolet. MSRP everyday, no games.
I don't wanna wait in line for 2-3 years and the whole out of state thing.

I decided to hold out on the Z and placed an order for a 2022 M240i. Ordered placed in February, MSRP, and has been delayed twice and now has been pushed back to a June production date. The main issue has been wiring harnesses that were sourced from the Ukraine.
I just can't get down with the new BMW styling, the 8 series is the only car that didn't get ugged up out of the new class IMO

And that whole Auto (yes, the ZF8 is amazing) and AWD only (3,871 lbs dry?!) thing doesn't vibe with me - Thundernight Metallic is a wonderful color and name however!! (please tell me you got yours in this color)
 

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I've had mechanics tell me BMW uses the tiniest wires and they are very fragile.
A lot of manufacturers, including Toyota, have switched over to aluminum wiring. And that shit is janky AF. You can't splice or repair it in the usual ways.

Between cheap shit like that and software intensive infotainment systems, I don't think vehicle manufacturers really care if their product is long lasting anymore. They'd rather you buy a new vehicle more frequently. You know, to "be green" or some BS
 

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I've had mechanics tell me BMW uses the tiniest wires and they are very fragile.
I was concerning about how manual labor intensive it is to put one harness together when the people that lives outside of Ukraine are in mental shock w/ the war.

As for the specs of the wiring harness, I'm not sure if he's qualified to make rational argument on electrical system. What's the problem though?
 

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A lot of manufacturers, including Toyota, have switched over to aluminum wiring. And that shit is janky AF. You can't splice or repair it in the usual ways.

Between cheap shit like that and software intensive infotainment systems, I don't think vehicle manufacturers really care if their product is long lasting anymore. They'd rather you buy a new vehicle more frequently. You know, to "be green" or some BS
When did that happen? I know American made Toyota uses Delphi wiring harness and fuse/junction boxes. Are the Denso wiring harness made of aluminum also?
 
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As for the specs of the wiring harness, I'm not sure if he's qualified to make rational argument on electrical system. What's the problem though?
Mechanics have told me they are a pain in the butt to work on- you can break things so easily.
 

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Nissan delays Z car launch on supply chain woes

Nissan delays Z car launch on supply chain woes; brand's Japan output plunges 44% in March.


TOKYO -- The Nissan Z car, a 400-hp, twin-turbo symbol of the struggling Japanese automaker's revival, is the latest product launch to be derailed by global supply chain woes.

The Z was expected to land in the home market in June, but Nissan Motor confirmed April 27 that the Japan-market launch “will be changed to this summer.” The company declined to be more specific.

The Nikkei reported the launch would be pushed to between July and September.

Nissan blamed the delay on the "ongoing semiconductor shortages and supply chain disruptions from the spread of COVID-19."

The U.S. launch was originally planned for this spring. Nissan declined to comment on the launch timing for other markets. The overhauled Z car targets mainly the U.S. and Japanese markets.

Nissan announced separately on April 27 that production in Japan plunged 44 percent in the month of March, compared with a year earlier, as the global supply chain crisis dragged on.

CEO Makoto Uchida unveiled the redesigned Z prototype in September 2020 to much fanfare.

The retro-styled sports coupe is a key nameplate in the company's “Nissan A to Z” product blitz, which aims to rejuvenate an aging lineup with a steady stream of new offerings.

The A stands for the new Ariya electric crossover, and the Z is for the new sports coupe.

The Ariya's arrival has also been thrown off schedule.

Deliveries of the full-electric SUV are starting to trickle out in Japan, but the Ariya won't reach the U.S. until the autumn.

Nissan doubled down on the 2023 Z, making the seventh-generation the most powerful in the line's history, a fire-breathing, twin-turbo 3.0-liter V-6 speedster that delivers 400 hp.

Both the Ariya and the Z are made at Nissan's Tochigi assembly plant north of Tokyo. The Ariya is made on a line that was completely revamped to manufacture electric vehicles. The Z is made on a separate line that also churns out the GT-R sports cars and sedans for Infiniti.

Also on April 27, Nissan announced Japan-market pricing of the upcoming Z.

The car will start at ÂĄ5,241,500 ($41,100), including consumption tax, and top out at ÂĄ6,966,300 ($54,600) for the top-grade Proto Spec, with a nine-speed automatic transmission.
 
 






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