Is the new Z already starting to affect the Supra?

[gymratter]

the cut in 2.0s was also posted on the Supra side.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/lo...shortage-of-four-cylinder-toyota-supras.9869/

 

[takemorepills]

I don't think they will be able to make enough Z's at first to really affect the Supra.

Both cars will be in limited supply for a long while. Many industry experts are saying we have a long way to go before supply issues clear up.

I think when (if) things normalize, the Z will destroy the Supra in sales.

 

[MZGA]

Here are the numbers for September and October.

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/toyota-supra-sales-figures/

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
2019	0	0	0	0	0	0	320	643	514	516	487	404
2020	342	398	273	231	512	538	515	500	489	677	708	704
2021	394	503	828	987	1,049	787	537	304	436	294	0	0

 

[supraboi]

I thought Toyota was prepared for the chip shortage? I know the 2022s are now just starting to roll into showrooms.

The chip shortage is starting to affect Toyota as well.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/10/business/toyota-production-chip-shortage.html

 

[Zboy]

Supply issue possible?

There is definitely a supply shortage right now. On the Toyota web site it shows no $51k base model for the 3.0 are available, only the $54.7k premium models.

 

[vb22]

There is definitely a supply shortage right now. On the Toyota web site it shows no $51k base model for the 3.0 are available, only the $54.7k premium models.

I think most people already gobbled up the base 3.0. Also with the 2.0 the only ones available are the ones with Safety & Technology Package. The grand total came out to be almost $48k. No wonder why those are sitting on the dealer lots lol.

 

[therumblewagon]

This feels like the most appropriate place to put this - https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyota-gr-supra-manual-gearbox-coming-by-mid-2022-report/

It's rumored, of course, but worth keeping an eye on

 

[Haste]

This feels like the most appropriate place to put this - https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyota-gr-supra-manual-gearbox-coming-by-mid-2022-report/

It's rumored, of course, but worth keeping an eye on

If it happens it would be interesting to know how many current mk5 owners that started dogging the manual transmission the last few years suddenly have a change of heart and switch.

Likewise, how many potential Z buyers would take the BMW/Toyota with a manual instead if that's their main issue with it.

S58 with a manual in something other than an ugly BMW body sounds good, but unfortunately the mk5 looks just as bad.

 

[Donalex]

A couple of weeks ago, I had the pleasure of driving a Porsche 911 GT3 with auto around a race track for three laps.

'ain't nothin' wrong wid dat...it was a wild ride. I couldn't have done any better manually shifting.

 

[Loco38SUP]

If it happens it would be interesting to know how many current mk5 owners that started dogging the manual transmission the last few years suddenly have a change of heart and switch.

Likewise, how many potential Z buyers would take the BMW/Toyota with a manual instead if that's their main issue with it.

S58 with a manual in something other than an ugly BMW body sounds good, but unfortunately the mk5 looks just as bad.

Out of the 30+ Supras in my area only 1 that I know of that traded in for a manual. I don’t think many are switching.

-RJM

 

[Zenogias]

Yeah the manual was always only going to be a short pop that would eventually flatline. Vast majority of people *cannot* drive a stick, and the small number that can dwindles more and more every year. That tiny demographic is certainly over-represented in people who drive sports cars, but still a minority.

 

[Hernandooo]

Low-key, a part of me wished I got a auto. The amount of mind complexity, speed, accuracy and effort to heel-toe down shift braking before getting into a corner, vs just downshifting on a paddle. Yep auto wins

 

[Thefunk]

Low-key, a part of me wished I got a auto. The amount of mind complexity, speed, accuracy and effort to heel-toe down shift braking before getting into a corner, vs just downshifting on a paddle. Yep auto wins

The manual Performance has rev matching so you don't have to heel-toe

 

[rocksandblues]

The manual Performance has rev matching so you don't have to heel-toe

auto rev match. Hill assist…. What’s the point of having manual if you automate the skill parts??

 

[Shuino]

auto rev match. Hill assist…. What’s the point of having manual if you automate the skill parts??

You can turn off the rev matching and hill assist.