Dealership Warranty

[Fishmiser]

This happens all the time. A common one is when dealerships install a lift, oversized wheels and other aftermarket parts on a new truck, they include the "free" warranty and sell it for a hefty markup. When the truck breaks, the owner finds out that the mods broke the truck and neither the OEM or "free" warranty covers it. People rightly get pissed because you'd think everything was kosher if you buy it brand new that way.

"Free warranty" and mods are mutually exclusive. It's not a big deal though, your OEM warranty coverage will probably be in effect with approved Nismo mods, but the mods definitely give the "free" warranty an excuse to outright cancel you.

I'm not real sure what the extent of mods you want to do, but I have personally been denied warranty on my dealership sourced lifetime warranty on my 2007 Titan. I have also seen other Titans with the lifetime warranty get denied coverage for something as simple as one wrong tire on the vehicle. A Titan owner got a flat, had to buy a tire out of town that didn't match the door jamb tire label, the tire shop didn't have the exact tire in stock and sold him an equivalent size that maintained the load and diameter of the stock tires to get him back on the road. He forgot about it and had an issue, the warranty adjuster came out and inspected the truck and denied the coverage.

Yeah. I wish I could just walk away from the warranty but my wife may divorce me.... LOL

 

[25 IS V8]

Man, talk about a video that got my blood boiling, but buyer beware for sure.

 

[hvillalobos]

You can install aftermarket parts like a cold air intake, exhaust, intercooler, and other bolt‑ons without automatically voiding your warranty. U.S. federal law protects you. The key law is the Magnuson‑Moss Warranty Act, and it forces the dealer/manufacturer to prove that your modification caused the problem before they can deny a warranty claim.

The dealer must prove causation
They can only deny a warranty claim if they can show that your specific aftermarket part caused the specific failure.

Examples:

You install a cold air intake → your transmission fails → still covered (no connection).

You install a poorly tuned intake that causes the MAF to misread → engine runs lean → engine damage → they can deny that engine claim, but not the rest of your warranty.

 

[Fishmiser]

You can install aftermarket parts like a cold air intake, exhaust, intercooler, and other bolt‑ons without automatically voiding your warranty. U.S. federal law protects you. The key law is the Magnuson‑Moss Warranty Act, and it forces the dealer/manufacturer to prove that your modification caused the problem before they can deny a warranty claim.

The dealer must prove causation
They can only deny a warranty claim if they can show that your specific aftermarket part caused the specific failure.

Examples:

You install a cold air intake → your transmission fails → still covered (no connection).

You install a poorly tuned intake that causes the MAF to misread → engine runs lean → engine damage → they can deny that engine claim, but not the rest of your warranty.

That was 100% my thought process as well.

 

[KrackaC8]

That was 100% my thought process as well.

Keep in mind, that only pertains to a factory warranty, not an aftermarket/dealership 3rd party warranty. You basically sign away all your rights with those.

 

[Fishmiser]

Keep in mind, that only pertains to a factory warranty, not an aftermarket/dealership 3rd party warranty. You basically sign away all your rights with those.

Yeah , I wish I knew about the 3rd party from the get go. The way they described it was a dealership thing backed by Nissan, not a 3rd party. Yes I should have read the documents closer but with it all said and done I didn't come out of pocket for it. They give it to their customers when you buy a car that is less than 5 years old and less than 50,000 miles. Except for the high end cars.

 

[FSUZ33]

When you say "intercooler" in the original post, do you mean heat exchanger?

The NISMO CAI, HX and exhaust are dealer-installed options now, configurable/buildable on nissanusa.com (along with coilovers, sway bars and front strut tower brace). Although for some reason the Sport is the only one that shows the exhaust as an option.

 

[Fishmiser]

When you say "intercooler" in the original post, do you mean heat exchanger?

The NISMO CAI, HX and exhaust are dealer-installed options now, configurable/buildable on nissanusa.com (along with coilovers, sway bars and front strut tower brace). Although for some reason the Sport is the only one that shows the exhaust as an option.

Yes ,

When you say "intercooler" in the original post, do you mean heat exchanger?

The NISMO CAI, HX and exhaust are dealer-installed options now, configurable/buildable on nissanusa.com (along with coilovers, sway bars and front strut tower brace). Although for some reason the Sport is the only one that shows the exhaust as an option.

Yes , we have always used the term intercooler as a broad term but I guess technically heat exchang is the broad term and intercooler a little more specific term

 

[KrackaC8]

Yes ,


Yes , we have always used the term intercooler as a broad term but I guess technically heat exchang is the broad term and intercooler a little more specific term

The heat exchanger is the radiator for our intercoolers (2). The intercoolers reside under the plastic engine cover. When you pop your hood, the coolant reservoir on the left is for the intercooling system, and the reservoir on the right is for the engine.

 

[25 IS V8]

Threads like this make me happy my IS 500 is normally aspirated. I don't have all those separate parts that put stress on an engine. OP, what is the latest status on what is going on? Pulling for you to get this resolved without you having to spend any money.

 

[takemorepills]

You can install aftermarket parts like a cold air intake, exhaust, intercooler, and other bolt‑ons without automatically voiding your warranty. U.S. federal law protects you. The key law is the Magnuson‑Moss Warranty Act, and it forces the dealer/manufacturer to prove that your modification caused the problem before they can deny a warranty claim.

The dealer must prove causation
They can only deny a warranty claim if they can show that your specific aftermarket part caused the specific failure.

Examples:

You install a cold air intake → your transmission fails → still covered (no connection).

You install a poorly tuned intake that causes the MAF to misread → engine runs lean → engine damage → they can deny that engine claim, but not the rest of your warranty.

When you acquire a vehicle with a dealership brokered aftermarket warranty, you agree to the specific terms of that warranty. The specific terms of the warranty are not preempted by the MMWA.

You need to read all the fine print because they have written it in such a way to give themselves a thousand ways to deny coverage, and/or cover only certain specific parts leaving you to pay for the labor to get to it and all incedental parts that need to be replaced too.

For example, warranty will cover main bearings, but won't always pay for getting to them, or all the other one time use parts that need to be removed to get to the bearings

 

[25 IS V8]

When you acquire a vehicle with a dealership brokered aftermarket warranty, you agree to the specific terms of that warranty. The specific terms of the warranty are not preempted by the MMWA.

You need to read all the fine print because they have written it in such a way to give themselves a thousand ways to deny coverage, and/or cover only certain specific parts leaving you to pay for the labor to get to it and all incedental parts that need to be replaced too.

For example, warranty will cover main bearings, but won't always pay for getting to them, or all the other one time use parts that need to be removed to get to the bearings

Would all of these problems have been solved if it was an actual Nissan extended warranty? Or do most extended warranties come from aftermarket companies? Curious about that.

 

[Zplz]

Yeah , I wish I knew about the 3rd party from the get go. The way they described it was a dealership thing backed by Nissan, not a 3rd party. Yes I should have read the documents closer but with it all said and done I didn't come out of pocket for it. They give it to their customers when you buy a car that is less than 5 years old and less than 50,000 miles. Except for the high end cars.

You mean you can't just trust what a dealer says?

 

[takemorepills]

Would all of these problems have been solved if it was an actual Nissan extended warranty? Or do most extended warranties come from aftermarket companies? Curious about that.

All I can find about that is "Nissan Security+Plus".

OP should check who is the warranty provider, it's usually Endurance

 

[MAPerformance_]

Why world a Nissan Dealership void all warranties on your vehicle if you let them install NISMO bolt on parts ? I understand ECU Programming and down pipes but Cold Air Intake , High Flow Exhaust and an Intercooler should be a full go if it is NISMO and installed by their techs.

agreed.