Kill Switch

[CPerdomo]

Are 2027 Z's getting them?
I truly hope not... although the recent appearance of the "remote start" option in the app is worrisome...
I read that the government passed a law requiring "all" cars to have one by 2027? does anyone in this forum has good source info for this?

 

[speedjuno]

I suspect manufacturers know Everything you car does, these days

 

[takemorepills]

Are 2027 Z's getting them?
I truly hope not... although the recent appearance of the "remote start" option in the app is worrisome...
I read that the government passed a law requiring "all" cars to have one by 2027? does anyone in this forum has good source info for this?

It might apply only to new designs released in 2027 and beyond.

To be clear, the "kill switch" legislation is not for a kill switch that authorities can access to remotely disable your vehicle, it's for in vehicle technology that can determine if you are under influence. It will generally require facial detection equipment that is integrated into the interior, usually above the steering wheel column.
Some manufacturers have already been installing this type of equipment, the hardware already exists and is usually being touted as "distracted driving aids" in current vehicles with the hardware. Those vehicles may support"kill switch " legislation through a simple software solution, if the computer is powerful enough, or vehicles made in compliance with the legislation will need an updated computer.

Fortunately for us, the Z hasn't been designed with this hardware in the interior. So, you'll know if a 2027 or newer vehicle possibly has compliant hardware just by looking at the dash, if there's sensors to look at your face, it may likely have it.

Most industry pundits don't think it's a fully sorted idea yet, the idea that a vehicle could shutdown or report you through passive sensing is technically ridiculous and full of liability for manufacturers if (when) the system erroneously determines a driver is under the influence.

Fortunately for Nissan owners, taking a modern Nissan offline is as simple as disconnecting the telematics antennas for WiFi and cellular. The vehicle will constantly think you're out of service area, occasionally notify you it couldn't update (happens 3-4 times a year with my disconnected Titan).
You would lose smartphone app control.

The "kill switch" legislation requires the onboard computer to decide if a driver is impaired without needing the Internet connection.

 

[Drago86]

It might apply only to new designs released in 2027 and beyond.

To be clear, the "kill switch" legislation is not for a kill switch that authorities can access to remotely disable your vehicle, it's for in vehicle technology that can determine if you are under influence. It will generally require facial detection equipment that is integrated into the interior, usually above the steering wheel column.
Some manufacturers have already been installing this type of equipment, the hardware already exists and is usually being touted as "distracted driving aids" in current vehicles with the hardware. Those vehicles may support"kill switch " legislation through a simple software solution, if the computer is powerful enough, or vehicles made in compliance with the legislation will need an updated computer.

Fortunately for us, the Z hasn't been designed with this hardware in the interior. So, you'll know if a 2027 or newer vehicle possibly has compliant hardware just by looking at the dash, if there's sensors to look at your face, it may likely have it.

Most industry pundits don't think it's a fully sorted idea yet, the idea that a vehicle could shutdown or report you through passive sensing is technically ridiculous and full of liability for manufacturers if (when) the system erroneously determines a driver is under the influence.

Fortunately for Nissan owners, taking a modern Nissan offline is as simple as disconnecting the telematics antennas for WiFi and cellular. The vehicle will constantly think you're out of service area, occasionally notify you it couldn't update (happens 3-4 times a year with my disconnected Titan).
You would lose smartphone app control.

The "kill switch" legislation requires the onboard computer to decide if a driver is impaired without needing the Internet connection.

HAHA, I had this happen with a rental car. I was adjusting the radio and it straight up said "radio controls disabled for x minutes, distracted driving detected" or something similar and all the radio controls stopped working.

 

[Schantin]

It might apply only to new designs released in 2027 and beyond.

To be clear, the "kill switch" legislation is not for a kill switch that authorities can access to remotely disable your vehicle, it's for in vehicle technology that can determine if you are under influence. It will generally require facial detection equipment that is integrated into the interior, usually above the steering wheel column.
Some manufacturers have already been installing this type of equipment, the hardware already exists and is usually being touted as "distracted driving aids" in current vehicles with the hardware. Those vehicles may support"kill switch " legislation through a simple software solution, if the computer is powerful enough, or vehicles made in compliance with the legislation will need an updated computer.

Fortunately for us, the Z hasn't been designed with this hardware in the interior. So, you'll know if a 2027 or newer vehicle possibly has compliant hardware just by looking at the dash, if there's sensors to look at your face, it may likely have it.

Most industry pundits don't think it's a fully sorted idea yet, the idea that a vehicle could shutdown or report you through passive sensing is technically ridiculous and full of liability for manufacturers if (when) the system erroneously determines a driver is under the influence.

Fortunately for Nissan owners, taking a modern Nissan offline is as simple as disconnecting the telematics antennas for WiFi and cellular. The vehicle will constantly think you're out of service area, occasionally notify you it couldn't update (happens 3-4 times a year with my disconnected Titan).
You would lose smartphone app control.

The "kill switch" legislation requires the onboard computer to decide if a driver is impaired without needing the Internet connection.

That's a good explanation of hardware and software interface.

The reason people worry about "kill switches" has nothing to do with impaired driving. That's the guise used to justify the more insidous intent. With a "kill switch" your vehicle's operation ultimately falls under government control. Say the next pandemic hits and big brother orders everyone to stay home (like COVID in 2020). A "kill switch" would enable the government to disable everyone's cars that have this technology as an enforcement act in the name of "public safety". Orwellian thought..... yes. Feasible, also yes.

 

[Miamibound]

It might apply only to new designs released in 2027 and beyond.

To be clear, the "kill switch" legislation is not for a kill switch that authorities can access to remotely disable your vehicle, it's for in vehicle technology that can determine if you are under influence. It will generally require facial detection equipment that is integrated into the interior, usually above the steering wheel column.
Some manufacturers have already been installing this type of equipment, the hardware already exists and is usually being touted as "distracted driving aids" in current vehicles with the hardware. Those vehicles may support"kill switch " legislation through a simple software solution, if the computer is powerful enough, or vehicles made in compliance with the legislation will need an updated computer.

Fortunately for us, the Z hasn't been designed with this hardware in the interior. So, you'll know if a 2027 or newer vehicle possibly has compliant hardware just by looking at the dash, if there's sensors to look at your face, it may likely have it.

Most industry pundits don't think it's a fully sorted idea yet, the idea that a vehicle could shutdown or report you through passive sensing is technically ridiculous and full of liability for manufacturers if (when) the system erroneously determines a driver is under the influence.

Fortunately for Nissan owners, taking a modern Nissan offline is as simple as disconnecting the telematics antennas for WiFi and cellular. The vehicle will constantly think you're out of service area, occasionally notify you it couldn't update (happens 3-4 times a year with my disconnected Titan).
You would lose smartphone app control.

The "kill switch" legislation requires the onboard computer to decide if a driver is impaired without needing the Internet connection.

Thank you for that info!

 

[CPerdomo]

Some of you need to watch these informative videos:

Congress Just Gave the Government a Kill Switch in Every New Car

The Car Itself Will Monitor Your Driving...': Thomas Massie Shreds Kill-Switches In Cars

This law was passed in 2021 by the Biden administration. Regardless of what the car can or cannot do, the biggest issue I see, is the capability of the data in your car being given to the insurance companies. Think about the implications.
If anything, don't downplay this... it can get really bad for us.

 

[Thefunk]

If the pandemic taught us anything, it is that there are people in positions of authority that find the ability to prevent vehicular travel quite arousing. Autonomy and freedom are an obstacle for some of these people and their agendas.

 

[CPerdomo]

If the pandemic taught us anything, it is that there are people in positions of authority that find the ability to prevent vehicular travel quite arousing. Autonomy and freedom are an obstacle for some of these people and their agendas.

Exactly