What other cars are you considering?

[takemorepills]

Well, I'm due for a new truck also. It seems the new Tundra and Nissan Z are going to be available at about the same time, although the Z's official release is in 2 days, and the Tundra is still being teased, but I bet the on-sale dates are pretty close, they're both considered MY2022.

It'll depend on if one of them has ADMs and one doesn't, I'll buy the one without ADMs first. I currently have an older Nissan Titan and a Q60. I have always owned a FS truck and a car. The truck is old and beat, but reliable, and the Q60 has lots of life left in it. I only have the funds for one vehicle, and the Tundra would be my most expensive vehicle purchase ever if I went through with it.

I'm not really cross-shopping the Z against anything else, I did see a 2021 Challenger 6MT ScatPack WB for $45K earlier this year, I actually went in to buy it, and the dealer put an invoice in front of me for $55K. There was a $10K ADM they never disclosed, and I walked out. That was just a whim, but I had the checkbook out and was gonna do it.

 

[trackratZ]

Well??

 

[West Aussie]

Well??

Love the Emira….very tempting

 

[jdm-rhd]

Well??

i keep looking at this car...its above what i was willing to pay for my next car. it is however within reach, but id be stuck in the same situation of needing a dd, i cant afford this and the z...it would have to be one or the other...hence a first world problem catch 22 for me. the smart move would be to get the z because i wouldnt daily the lotus....i couldnt lol.

 

[DevonK]

Here's something from a guy who dumped a Bullit for a Miata, his arguments resonate with me wrt the Z to some extent. Wish the Miata offered rev matching.

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

Looking at Australian prices, you can get two Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ cars for the price of a Nissan Z which of course further proves they aren't really comparable car types.

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

Forget the Nissan Z, and the Toyota/Subaru twins, Corvette, Lotus, etc ... get this one instead:

The Rumpler Drop (1921)

Jalopnik.com

 

[West Aussie]

Forget the Nissan Z, and the Toyota/Subaru twins, Corvette, Lotus, etc ... get this one instead:

The Rumpler Drop (1921)

Jalopnik.com

At least it’s different

 

[jdrxb9]

Here's something from a guy who dumped a Bullit for a Miata, his arguments resonate with me wrt the Z to some extent. Wish the Miata offered rev matching.

I only made it through a couple minutes of this - as an ND2 owner, I agree with the great shifter, and the 'usability' of the (modest) power, but anybody that says a base (or club) ND2 with no mods is as close to a go kart as anything he's ever driven needs to drive some more cars - like an Elise ? Even a BRZ/FRS/etc (that I had before the ND2), feels 'tighter' with less body roll than any unmodified ND.

PS - bet you can find a youtube for how to heel toe rev match - no automation needed

 

[DevonK]

I only made it through a couple minutes of this - as an ND2 owner, I agree with the great shifter, and the 'usability' of the (modest) power, but anybody that says a base (or club) ND2 with no mods is as close to a go kart as anything he's ever driven needs to drive some more cars - like an Elise ? Even a BRZ/FRS/etc (that I had before the ND2), feels 'tighter' with less body roll than any unmodified ND.

PS - bet you can find a youtube for how to heel toe rev match - no automation needed

The 2022s introduce some new tech (slightly braking the inner rear wheel on fast cornering) that according to Aussie reviews goes a good way to reduce the roly-poly and makes the car handle even better. And yes the Miata is supposed to have one of the best pedal box setups for heel-toe, just don't know if I want to risk it on a new car.

 

[LeatherWings]

Here's something from a guy who dumped a Bullit for a Miata, his arguments resonate with me wrt the Z to some extent. Wish the Miata offered rev matching.

This is also where I'm at. The new Z is obviously the winner in the sex appeal and power department, but I just know that I'd have so much friggin' fun in a Miata - all while saving a pretty significant chunk o' cash.

As the saying goes: It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow.

When I look at the Z, I definitely have a more visceral reaction - one that I don't get by looking at a Miata. But I gotta decide what's more important to me: the badass allure of the Z? Or the inexpensive, fun and playful Miata... Both have their merits.

 

[LeatherWings]

The 2022s introduce some new tech (slightly braking the inner rear wheel on fast cornering) that according to Aussie reviews goes a good way to reduce the roly-poly and makes the car handle even better. And yes the Miata is supposed to have one of the best pedal box setups for heel-toe, just don't know if I want to risk it on a new car.

Yeah, one of the Aus reviewers on YT said that the new KPC feature's improvement in handling over the non-KPC Miata is like what the prior Club model's handling was in comparison to the Sport base model.

 

[takemorepills]

So, I checked this out yesterday:

It seems that the high gas prices have caused these once unobtanium an ADM'ed Tundras to suddenly become available. Ugh, I own both a truck and a sporty car, and my current truck is 16 years old, but my Q60 is still like new.... Real difficult to resist. Asking price only $50k

 

[LeatherWings]

So, I checked this out yesterday:

It seems that the high gas prices have caused these once unobtanium an ADM'ed Tundras to suddenly become available. Ugh, I own both a truck and a sporty car, and my current truck is 16 years old, but my Q60 is still like new.... Real difficult to resist. Asking price only $50k

 

[Donalex]

Once you're behind the wheel, the look of the car is not really that important. It's not like you can see yourself driving.