NissanZClub Markup Thread

[TaroBaapG35]

Is anyone selling one for $60k right now? I might be willing to get there.

$60k is what Dealers will sell the Sport/Base Z ($49k) for when they come in as those will probably come later...

Fact is I have a really good relationship with this dealership and the salesperson. I was told they are at 1% of Normal inventory so they are just trying to make it up anywhere else they can. In fact they originally wanted to add 5k worth of dealer add on's called performance package (bullshit) they removed this after I told them there is no way in Hell I would take a Limited edition proto spec with dealer BS add on's. Sounded like they are hurting financially...but no one cares about car dealership anyway right!

Yea, my buddy says the same thing. He has to sell each new car for what he would be selling 5 cars combined for in profit last year. All the dealers around me are owned by the same group so they're all going to add atleast $1k of Manufacturer add ons plus $2k of "Dealer Protection Package" (Bs items such as $500 non uv window tint, $200 wheel locks, $150 rear bumper PPF) all of which you can get outside for +50% off.

Majority of dealers are marking up their used cars since their new car inventory is low, but that doesn't mean they are hurting per se. They're getting additional time in their inventory purchases (more time to pay off the cars), plus further incentives to add on insurance and even their financing options (minimum 10bps increase to what rate they get from banks) from Nissan themselves.

my buddy went out of state to a small town in Mass and got his Bronco sasquatch edition for msrp but drove it back to miami

This is what I did for last 3 cars (-Tesla). But, in this market, we'd have to go 3-6 months after an actual Z hits dealer lots to get lucky as your buddy has. I'm all for out of town purchases!

 

[Blackbeard]

$60k is what Dealers will sell the Sport/Base Z ($49k) for when they come in as those will probably come later...



Yea, my buddy says the same thing. He has to sell each new car for what he would be selling 5 cars combined for in profit last year. All the dealers around me are owned by the same group so they're all going to add atleast $1k of Manufacturer add ons plus $2k of "Dealer Protection Package" (Bs items such as $500 non uv window tint, $200 wheel locks, $150 rear bumper PPF) all of which you can get outside for +50% off.

Majority of dealers are marking up their used cars since their new car inventory is low, but that doesn't mean they are hurting per se. They're getting additional time in their inventory purchases (more time to pay off the cars), plus further incentives to add on insurance and even their financing options (minimum 10bps increase to what rate they get from banks) from Nissan themselves.



This is what I did for last 3 cars (-Tesla). But, in this market, we'd have to go 3-6 months after an actual Z hits dealer lots to get lucky as your buddy has. I'm all for out of town purchases!

yea im lucky i wasted so much dam time at the dealer i ended up out the door 57k for the supra after they were like well it has a 10k markup..i was like fuck it u leave that 600 dollar toyo guard on there lol

 

[Donalex]

...and even their financing options (minimum 10bps increase to what rate they get from banks) from Nissan themselves.

OMG. The Consumer Protection Bureau would have a field day with that if they knew.

That means a 4.5% buy rate would be 14.5% contract!

"I'm sorry, but that's the best rate I can get you now. The Fed raised the rates on everything last month."

Scumbags...

Perfect incentive to get your financing at a credit union.

 

[Blackbeard]

OMG. The Consumer Protection Bureau would have a field day with that if they knew.

That means a 4.5% buy rate would be 14.5% contract!

"I'm sorry, but that's the best rate I can get you now. The Fed raised the rates on everything last month."

Scumbags...

Perfect incentive to get your financing at a credit union.

didnt kia or Hyundai get in trouble for something like this

 

[Z06fan]

After I paid my deposit my final price populated per salesperson. OMG. 65k for a Z seems insane! What else could I buy for that amount? Is it worth it?? Thoughts?

I was planning to get one for my wife to replace her Mini. As this has dragged-on and the price has increased, I'm now considering other options. It's a lot of money for a Z, especially when you consider other options for $65k. My other concern is that if I pay an ADM and the values potentially drop as the supply chain eventually improves, I don't want to be out $30-35k in a couple years. At the end of the day, only you can make that decision.

 

[71zman]

I was planning to get one for my wife to replace her Mini. As this has dragged-on and the price has increased, I'm now considering other options. It's a lot of money for a Z, especially when you consider other options for $65k. My other concern is that if I pay an ADM and the values potentially drop as the supply chain eventually improves, I don't want to be out $30-35k in a couple years. At the end of the day, only you can make that decision.

Unfortunately the others options out there for a Manual are so limited now what I want is a clean/classic looking 6spd manual import car. So what is left is BMW M3 or Porsche Cayman/Boxster all are much higher priced. So I guess I will eat the ADM this time.

 

[jc604]

If u can justify paying the markup for the proto then its fine. Just kinda shitty this “limited” run is just a couple of different colors which doesnt really make it super special. They were better off putting the yellow as the exterior color proto spec only as well

 

[TitanZ]

Autotrader has listed 2 Protos, only one with a price, just a measly $45K over MSRP. Record profits for yet another year...early retirement baby!

 

[jdm-rhd]

^ wow...there are literal tears of laughter in my eyes. ?

 

[Georges1]

I think a limited edition of 240 Proto’s is fine, however they will probably get snapped up by dealers or their best friends. It will be interesting to see if a regular buyer can even get one. Regarding pricing, if some buyers get so wrapped up and will pay too much, then it will make it difficult for everyone. This is often the case with new models. There may be more normalcy in pricing a couple of model years down the road. We will know soon enough when sales start.

 

[jdm-rhd]

Unfortunately the others options out there for a Manual are so limited now what I want is a clean/classic looking 6spd manual import car. So what is left is BMW M3 or Porsche Cayman/Boxster all are much higher priced. So I guess I will eat the ADM this time.

i wished we had went with the boxster instead of the z4 when we were shopping between them. maybe my views on european reliability would be different...

 

[jdm-rhd]

I think a limited edition of 240 Proto’s is fine, however they will probably get snapped up by dealers or their best friends. It will be interesting to see if a regular buyer can even get one. Regarding pricing, if some buyers get so wrapped up and will pay too much, then it will make it difficult for everyone. This is often the case with new models. There may be more normalcy in pricing a couple of model years down the road. We will know soon enough when sales start.

there were crazy dealer mark-ups when the zupr4 first came out and some people paid it. it didn't take long for prices to normalize and then people were picking them up for way below msrp.

 

[therumblewagon]

Autotrader has listed 2 Protos, only one with a price, just a measly $45K over MSRP. Record profits for yet another year...early retirement baby!

Lol, just came across this same car while on cars.com - https://universal-nissan.com/sale/n...fl/2023-nissan-z-proto-spec-jn1bz4bh1pm310401

I think someone said they saw one going for 125k, but believe this is the first time we've seen astronomical markup on an actual posting.

 

[71zman]

i wished we had went with the boxster instead of the z4 when we were shopping between them. maybe my views on european reliability would be different...

I will never own another BMW sadly have had 2 and both were POS!

 

[takemorepills]

I was planning to get one for my wife to replace her Mini. As this has dragged-on and the price has increased, I'm now considering other options. It's a lot of money for a Z, especially when you consider other options for $65k. My other concern is that if I pay an ADM and the values potentially drop as the supply chain eventually improves, I don't want to be out $30-35k in a couple years. At the end of the day, only you can make that decision.

If it's replacing a Mini for the wife, why not consider the Sport Z?