Nissan Z vs Toyota Supra

Which one gets your vote?


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DevonK

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How many times can this guy milk the new Z for his YouTube channel? 30? 50? Stay tuned to find out!!
 

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How many times can this guy milk the new Z for his YouTube channel? 30? 50? Stay tuned to find out!!
Obviously, todays youth is hungry for views and likes, but maybe it’s an indication of how much the guy enjoys the Z and his fans too by requesting more. Maybe, maybe not. Either way, yeah for the Z!
 

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"It's the tires" nope, not just the tires. The design of the suspension has a lot to do with how a car hooks up. I think it's been proven that the Z struggles on good tires also.

The 1st roll, the "thwap" from the accelerator pedal and the long pause from the transmission is exactly the same in my Q60. I know that sound well, and the ridiculous wait for downshift. Seems Nissan hasn't fixed a damn thing.

However, the manual shifting rolls look about right, the lighter Supra with an actually more powerful engine (both in actual whp and rated torque) slowly pulls away every time, and that's about what I'd expect.

Broken record here.....no way the Z, with it's old chassis, is going to win over a BMW with a modern chassis and underrated inline 6.
Obviously the VR30 is very competitive, it's the ancient chassis it's in holding it back. Turn it up to 500hp and it's going to be messy!
 

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I like how all these Tubers round down on the Z price and round up on the Supra.

Where in the hell can you find a Performance Z for $49K?

-RJM
 

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Another thing that really sucks, many people wanted to get a Z before winter kicked in. This Z has horrible traction on a good day, must be useless in the rain. Sam was calling out wheelspin through at least 3 gears, wtf!
 

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Broken record here.....no way the Z, with it's old chassis, is going to win over a BMW with a modern chassis and underrated inline 6.
Obviously the VR30 is very competitive, it's the ancient chassis it's in holding it back. Turn it up to 500hp and it's going to be messy!
Right on, it's going to take some serious modification to make the Z come out on top in a drag race with a stock Supra. And even if someone is able to unlock the perfect combination of upgrades that allow for the VR30 to overcome the chassis limitations, and even if those modifications can be done relatively cheaply (all things considered), the Z is still far too close to the Supra from an MSRP perspective for it to look like a relative bargain (which was always part of the allure, at least for me).

**edit: unless you are somehow able to start from the Sport model and achieve this**

I've resigned to the idea that the new Z just isn't as capable a performer as I had hoped it would be. I doubt if many will necessarily care, in practice, but it will always be in the back of some/many of our minds.
 

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Right on, it's going to take some serious modification to make the Z come out on top in a drag race with a stock Supra. And even if someone is able to unlock the perfect combination of upgrades that allow for the VR30 to overcome the chassis limitations, and even if those modifications can be done relatively cheaply (all things considered), the Z is still far too close to the Supra from an MSRP perspective for it to look like a relative bargain (which was always part of the allure, at least for me).

I've resigned to the idea that the new Z just isn't as capable a performer as I had hoped it would be. I doubt if many will necessarily care, in practice, but it will always be in the back of some/many of our minds.
I don't mind the performance shortcomings.
But I'm going to want to get this thing under MSRP. I've always bought underdog Nissans. But I've always scored a really good deal too.
What would invoice be on a Performance Z? If it's $48k than that's better.
I won't be cross shopping other cars, unless a Supra 6MT happened into my life.
Still prefer the underdog.
 

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I don't mind the performance shortcomings.
But I'm going to want to get this thing under MSRP. I've always bought underdog Nissans. But I've always scored a really good deal too.
What would invoice be on a Performance Z? If it's $48k than that's better.
I won't be cross shopping other cars, unless a Supra 6MT happened into my life.
Still prefer the underdog.
This! Nissan has that scrappy quality, for better or worse. I want to see the day we're able to get these for invoice 🤟
 
 





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