Nissan Z vs Toyota Supra

Which one gets your vote?


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I agree ^ with the comment above as Its a great point. The Supra lost alot of its Supra Toyota feel with the heavy BMW influence. Lexus makes 6 cyl’s and I wonder why they didnt put the IS350 engine in the Supra? Possibly it wouldnt fit but in my view of it had a lexus engine alot more people would be buyers.
This is all just my best guess as to what they were thinking... they wanted to put an I6 in it without developing another one themselves. I'm not sure how enticing a 311 hp NA V6 is these days without adding a turbo or two, and they'd have a whole different group of people in tears had they not gone inline. Either way they probably realized they would have to develop a new 3.0L engine of some sort. The B58 was already there, I6, turbo, and probably hit their power goals/is cheaper than say the S55 or S58.
 

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This is all just my best guess as to what they were thinking... they wanted to put an I6 in it without developing another one themselves. I'm not sure how enticing a 311 hp NA V6 is these days without adding a turbo or two, and they'd have a whole different group of people in tears had they not gone inline. Either way they probably realized they would have to develop a new 3.0L engine of some sort. The B58 was already there, I6, turbo, and probably hit their power goals/is cheaper than say the S55 or S58.
Yup exactly. It's a great cost cutting approach for Toyota/BMW along with building a relationship to share tech, etc. Toyota can def do that especially as they've already shown it works with the BRZ/GT86 twins. Its a win-win for both companies (Financially), but sucks for the true owners who don't want to bmw their supra. This is coming from someone who has owned/loved/lost the Z and now has an Audi.
 

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This is all just my best guess as to what they were thinking... they wanted to put an I6 in it without developing another one themselves. I'm not sure how enticing a 311 hp NA V6 is these days without adding a turbo or two, and they'd have a whole different group of people in tears had they not gone inline. Either way they probably realized they would have to develop a new 3.0L engine of some sort. The B58 was already there, I6, turbo, and probably hit their power goals/is cheaper than say the S55 or S58.
I believe if people could get over the GTR not being an inline 6 then the Supra could have been V6.

People like to complain at first because it's not exactly what they envisioned the car to be, but eventually compromise or just move along.

I don't think a Supra without boost would have ever been excepted though, even though they've come NA before.
 

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Changed my vote guys. Guess its just between the Challenger and Z now...
I'm in the same boat as you narrowed it down to the two. But I've really had my heart set on the new Z ever since it was revealed I just keeping coming back to take another look. I guess what it really is coming down to for me is the price, here's hoping rumors about pricing are true.
 

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I work for a multinational company selling and servicing industrial equipment engineered and manufactured in Japan and also equipment engineered and manufactured in Germany. From my experience both with our equipment and our competitor's equipment, I'll choose Japanese over German made any day of the week.

Gimme a Z!
 

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I used to own a '98 BMW 540iA (4.4L V8). It was a painful and sweet experience at the same time.
Sweet because it put a smile on my face everytime I drove it.
Painful because it had so many issues after 4-5 yrs. I got to know all the service advisors by their first names.
Why? Mechanically, that car was very solid. Extensive use of plastics under the hood and all the sensors did not last very long.
Very disappointed in *German Engineering*.
It was a $52K car in 1998 dollars...

Rumors had it that, BMW V8 couldn't meet the US emission standard at that time.
Their quick solution was to raise the operation temp by 10 degree.
Good idea. All plastic parts failed prematurely.
From the records, the cooling system (mostly plastics) got me stranded three times.

For the same reason, I won't even consider a Supra even if I can live with that strange (to me personally) exterior.
 

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I used to own a '98 BMW 540iA (4.4L V8). It was a painful and sweet experience at the same time.
Sweet because it put a smile on my face everytime I drove it.
Painful because it had so many issues after 4-5 yrs. I got to know all the service advisors by their first names.
For a pain-free-BMW experience, either lease it, or even better - own it virtually! I drive them all in Forza Horizon 4 lol...
 

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I joined a couple MkV Supra forums for a project I'm working on, and I've seen a notable amount of posts regarding the performance and value of the Z. I'm pumped to put the new Z through development and smack some Supras
 

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Yea, it is def a hit-miss with german cars. Agreed best option is def to lease it, I...did not lease mine..lol. So fingers crossed I don't run into any major issues with mine before I part out.

Supra will def be faster (straight line) due to the 8speed, unless it is confirmed that the ZF 9Speed from the pathfinder is 100% making it into the Z. Many MKV buyers bought their cars since they wanted a "supra" and there are no other high power, 2 door Japanese cars left with the "status" of the Supra.
 

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I was going through the supra site.
Someone said something about the Z not being tunable just like their new 2021 supra.

Can anyone confirm this?
 

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Wouldn't be surprising, but someone, someday, will crack the code.
 

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Yeah they said something about bench flashing and apparently this is the new norm for newer cars coming out now.
Not sure why it's like that
 
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