(Hagerty) How fast is the new $50k Nissan Z? — New Z vs Supra vs Mustang Mach-1

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

they need a car soon

It's unlikely that anyone ever actually needs a brand new $50,000 sports car, let alone needs it right now.

Edit: Thinking about it, the above is the definition of a mid-life crisis.

 

[jezzza]

Unfortunately that's precisely what too many of these "must be first" fools do. They simply have to have the latest toy on the block and in a couple of years they'll be selling off their "must have it now Z" for whatever is then the new toy on the block (the new Honda S2000 perhaps, probably electric / hybrid). You just have to watch some of these review videos when they're talking of the cars they've actually owned ... "I had a 3670Z", "I had a Mustang", "I had a Corvette" ... they upgrade their cars almost as quickly as their cellphones. They aren't really interested in the actual car at all, but simply the bragging rights to be first of their friends to own each one.

Who are these people? No one that I've met and surely no one who's active on forums like this.

I've never purchased a new vehicle before but put in a Z preorder 12 months ago through sheer excitement of a unique sports car with an epic history. I really would like delivery as soon as possible for my own driving pleasure. I'd say there's many others here with a similar story.

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

No one that I've met and surely no one who's active on forums like this.

You would hope not, but it's probable there's a couple, even if they're not the regular posters.

I can also see some selfish idiots out there pre-ordering and buying them simply to scalp it on eBay or wherever at an even higher price due to the initial difficulty in getting one.

 

[TiresAlwaysFlat]

Some insight by Jason Cammisa about the new Z and the Hagerty race video.

 

[West Aussie]

Who are these people? No one that I've met and surely no one who's active on forums like this.

I've never purchased a new vehicle before but put in a Z preorder 12 months ago through sheer excitement of a unique sports car with an epic history. I really would like delivery as soon as possible for my own driving pleasure. I'd say there's many others here with a similar story.

I like you @jezzza have also had my name down for over a year…patiently waiting…in the meantime I also sold my actual car and now drive my youngest sons, so yes I’d like a car to call my own again.
Not everyone is a super brat that wants everything now

As to people pushing prices up in the US…I would disagree …I would say that is the dealers sheer greed that does that.
No matter the demand in Aus and Canada the price will be the same…so don’t go blaming the consumer Denver

 

[Loco38SUP]

No they were too amped up on the free Red Bulls Nissan provided at the press release.

His comment that many of these Z’s will be found wadded up on Copart was alarming.

-RJM

 

[rocksandblues]

No they were too amped up on the free Red Bulls Nissan provided at the press release.

His comment that many of these Z’s will be found wadded up on Copart was alarming.

-RJM

To be fair- there are so many high hp cars these days across almost every manufacturer Nissan will not own the COpart crown exclusively.

So many drivers out there could wreck an anvil.

We live in the golden age of sports cars really. I am surprised big brother hasnt tried to limit horsepower and our fun- but part of me suspects the high gas prices are kind of intentional to push the demise of ICE

 

[because_murica]

No they were too amped up on the free Red Bulls Nissan provided at the press release.

His comment that many of these Z’s will be found wadded up on Copart was alarming.

-RJM

Alarming if you're an 80 year old grandma maybe. Anyone who's been into cars longer than 5min knows that relatively affordable sports cars will attract novice drivers. Which is why Mustangs have been recognized by JD Power as #1 in crowd control in initial testing.

 

[because_murica]

I think SG mentioned top speed limits. Is that not obvious? Most cars are limited to 155mph from factory. The limiter is easily removed via a tune. And all you need for increased stability is a larger wing. Even a large duck tail like Fosberg has will do.

 

[therumblewagon]

Alarming if you're an 80 year old grandma maybe. Anyone who's been into cars longer than 5min knows that relatively affordable sports cars will attract novice drivers. Which is why Mustangs have been recognized by JD Power as #1 in crowd control in initial testing.

I chortled

 

[DevonK]

I have seen a couple of reviewers comment about somewhat numb on-centre steering feel.

When I quoted Camissa's instagram feed stating that the GR86 was "way more fun" though Jack from Savagegeese responded here with "nonsense". It appears two of the most respected reviewers, both of whom had way more track time with the Z than anyone else (and weren't limited to modest lead-follow pacing), have some pretty fundamental disagreements about this car's handling and drivability. Hard to know what to make of it all.

 

[StrikeS30]

Who are these people? No one that I've met and surely no one who's active on forums like this.

I've never purchased a new vehicle before but put in a Z preorder 12 months ago through sheer excitement of a unique sports car with an epic history. I really would like delivery as soon as possible for my own driving pleasure. I'd say there's many others here with a similar story.

Same here. This will be the 6th Z I've owned so far. I'm buying this out of sheer excitement and joy. And, well I am getting older now too, so yolo. Do I care to be the first guy on the block with one, or some crazy bragging rights online? Not at all. I spent a couple years on and off about buying a Nismo 370. I just couldn't bite. I don't know what it was. Maybe I wasn't quite as financially stable as I am now, or maybe I had a deep feeling something new may come. But, alas May 2020 rolls around. Terrible year as we all know. But, as soon as they teased that new Proto. I was excited. VERY excited. From that day from the first Nissan NEXT A-Z silhouette video with the screen shots, and people trying to enhance it to see that car, I knew I had to have one to add to the collection. The hype was building. I knew this was the one for me.

I have a lot of Z's, yes. But, I wanted something that I can hop in and just go. No worries, a nice summer driver. The old cars are fantastic, but damn they're temperamental at the best of times

And for the people who are scared about the first ones, year one, first year problems. I'm sure it may have a few bugs. Things will smooth out. TSB's may be issued. Year two, three or 4 IF it exists will maybe add a few trim options, or colors, and maybe a few revisions. But, look at what it is. It's going to be maintained, drivin and enjoyed by some of the greatest gear-heads and enthusiast community around. And it's also built in the new Nissan Intelligent Factory, so there's also that.

It's some what of a halo car for Nissan and their re-imaging. They want this to succeed. I guarantee you they will make sure ALL of the cars coming off the line are right.

 

[West Aussie]

I have seen a couple of reviewers comment about somewhat numb on-centre steering feel.

When I quoted Camissa's instagram feed stating that the GR86 was "way more fun" though Jack from Savagegeese responded here with "nonsense". It appears two of the most respected reviewers, both of whom had way more track time with the Z than anyone else (and weren't limited to modest lead-follow pacing), have some pretty fundamental disagreements about this car's handling and drivability. Hard to know what to make of it all.

Not really…it comes down to personal preference a great deal of the time…like most things in life
I wouldn’t touch a BRZ or 86 …but that’s just me maybe

 

[Denver the Last Dinosaur]

it comes down to personal preference a great deal of the time

One of the many reasons why you should always test drive a car before parting with any money.