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I have no regrets about purchasing the car. It has been fun, but I do feel that Nissan could have made the car better for not much more money. The suspension has been my biggest qualm. If it was adjustable, it would solve the 'I want to take it to the track and I also want a comfortable road cruiser. I think Nissan tried to find the sweet spot that ended pleasing no one. It is now on the market.
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Nissan could have made the car better for not much more money. The suspension has been my biggest qualm. If it was adjustable, it would solve the 'I want to take it to the track and I also want a comfortable road cruiser. I think Nissan tried to find the sweet spot that ended pleasing no one. It is now on the market.
I'm sure that Nissan undergoes the very common internal debate between Marketing and Engineering regarding what can be done vs what will sell. The company has to stay in business so they have to make a product that will appeal to the broadest market within the subset where that product sits. No doubt in my mind that the Z as marketed in stock form is not the ideal race car, but it's probably incorrect to believe that the car pleases no one just because one is not squarely in their marketing target. The car pleases me (mostly), but I'm confident that you and I have a very different set of expectations. Which of us is in the target market...time will tell and we'll see that in the form of different pricing, revised engineering, different options, or termination of the product. No competent manufacturer will continue selling a product the pleases no one.
 

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Is it just the suspension that bothers you? That can be fixed for not much money lol. Hate to see you sell it simply for that. Best of luck on your journey either way.
 

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I'm sure that Nissan undergoes the very common internal debate between Marketing and Engineering regarding what can be done vs what will sell. The company has to stay in business so they have to make a product that will appeal to the broadest market within the subset where that product sits. No doubt in my mind that the Z as marketed in stock form is not the ideal race car, but it's probably incorrect to believe that the car pleases no one just because one is not squarely in their marketing target. The car pleases me (mostly), but I'm confident that you and I have a very different set of expectations. Which of us is in the target market...time will tell and we'll see that in the form of different pricing, revised engineering, different options, or termination of the product. No competent manufacturer will continue selling a product the pleases no one.
Yeah between the two a track driver is going to have more of a chance adjusting their car and working on / modding it than the common "I just want a fun sports car" person who will just drive it and not track it.

I personally love the "softer" suspension of the Z - it was a selling point to me when I was doing my research. Watching all these youtubers knock it for that made me want it more than a Supra or Vette. I was not looking for a track car. It was so hard to find reviews that were just about the car and not it's speed and handling vs other sports cars.
 

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I have no regrets about purchasing the car. It has been fun, but I do feel that Nissan could have made the car better for not much more money. The suspension has been my biggest qualm. If it was adjustable, it would solve the 'I want to take it to the track and I also want a comfortable road cruiser. I think Nissan tried to find the sweet spot that ended pleasing no one. It is now on the market.
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Should've bought an M car if you weren't going to mod it ?‍♂
 
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Should've bought an M car if you weren't going to mod it ?‍♂
Yes, I choose my words poorly. I guess I missing a car that I could take to the track one day and then take it on a road trip with my wife the next. If I put coilovers and sway bars then it becomes a track car which isn't comfortable on road trips. I have owned previous cars that the adjustable suspension let you do that. In its stock state, I feel the Z is a GT car and less of track car. But like I said, it has been a fun ride.
 

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Yes, I choose my words poorly. I guess I missing a car that I could take to the track one day and then take it on a road trip with my wife the next. If I put coilovers and sway bars then it becomes a track car which isn't comfortable on road trips. I have owned previous cars that the adjustable suspension let you do that. In its stock state, I feel the Z is a GT car and less of track car. But like I said, it has been a fun ride.
After trading in my 23 Z Performance, I've been enjoying my 24 Nismo Z as a daily driver. I don't track my cars, but feel the new Nismo Z would shine bright on the track. Take one for a test drive if you have the chance, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
 

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IMHO, there is no such car.
I disagree. A few weeks ago I did a 1000 mile road trip which included about 150 miles on the track. This coming weekend, I will be doing something similar. Around 600 miles cruising and another 150 miles on the track. My car also has coilovers and still rides great. It drives me crazy when people say coilovers make a car ride bad cause thats not the case. Cheap coilovers make a car ride bad. If people actually spent the money on good ones, they actually ride good.
 

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I disagree. A few weeks ago I did a 1000 mile road trip which included about 150 miles on the track. This coming weekend, I will be doing something similar. Around 600 miles cruising and another 150 miles on the track. My car also has coilovers and still rides great. It drives me crazy when people say coilovers make a car ride bad cause thats not the case. Cheap coilovers make a car ride bad. If people actually spent the money on good ones, they actually ride good.
I should have qualified my statement by acknowledging that what constitutes a "great ride" or a "bad ride" is highly subjective. What works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another. No way in the world would my wife ride 1000 miles in my car, even if there was room for her suitcase.

When cruising an "enthusiast's" online forum like this one, the opinions don't always represent the general sport's car buyer nor the market sub-segment that Nissan was aiming for.
 

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Nice Z!. to bad you are not just up to throwing on a set of Nismo Coilovers and keeping the Z. I have a Proto Z and a Nismo Z and the Proto is certainly much softer in the suspension. I will be adding the Nismo coilovers/spring set very soon. I too prefer a stiffer ride but would not get rid of the car for that reason. The Nismo coilovers are just 1600$ ish. IMHO it is money better spent that the depreciation and loss of sales tax than selling the car. Wish you the best @flyrchris !
 
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I smile every time I drive my 23 performance Z. It’s not my daily at all though , more of a weekend Z.
 

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I solved this problem to my liking by opting for softer coilovers than most. Still gives me the adjustability and better handling without being too stiff and bumpy. I realise it's subjective but there is a big difference between the stiffest and the softest coilovers, and of course you have damper adjustment as well.

https://mcasuspension.com/pro-comfort/

I've used MCA coilovers for years in my cars and have never had an issue, quality is excellent.
 

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I disagree. A few weeks ago I did a 1000 mile road trip which included about 150 miles on the track. This coming weekend, I will be doing something similar. Around 600 miles cruising and another 150 miles on the track. My car also has coilovers and still rides great. It drives me crazy when people say coilovers make a car ride bad cause thats not the case. Cheap coilovers make a car ride bad. If people actually spent the money on good ones, they actually ride good.
Agree 100%
 
 






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