Honda Civic Type-R Discussion - 5th & 6th gen (2017+)

[johnny_10196]

Some real life pics with accessories

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threa...ull-modulo-parts-oem-honda-accessories.50944/

 

[DevonK]

Does the new R sound better than the new Z? Maybe, at least compared to the MT Z....

 

[takemorepills]

Does the new R sound better than the new Z? Maybe, at least compared to the MT Z....

Sounds like crap

 

[Haste]

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threads/fl5-and-fk8-civic-type-r-comparison-side-by-side-look.50980/

 

[Haste]

 

[West Aussie]

I owned a Civic type R a long time ago…loved it.
I just don’t like this latest reincarnation.
The front end looks boxy, almost like a sedan with air vents and I’m not sure if it’s just the photos but it looks BIG ….a hot hatch should be small and nimble, it was already one of the biggest hatches on the market

 

[NecioVato]

I owned a Civic type R a long time ago…loved it.
I just don’t like this latest reincarnation.
The front end looks boxy, almost like a sedan with air vents and I’m not sure if it’s just the photos but it looks BIG ….a hot hatch should be small and nimble, it was already one of the biggest hatches on the market

Everything seems to be getting bigger and bigger. I agree the current gen CTR is already a big car - not that it’s a bad thing - since it has become the performance ‘do it all’ ride that was supposed to be ‘reasonably priced’. Right now - I feel with the extreme markups of the new CTR that will happen - I feel the current gen will be a bargain (once the used car market tanks). I know I would like to find a CTR as a daily and then look to do ‘stupid shit’ to my current Z; although not sure how smart it is to heavily mod the Z vs getting a new one and starting off with ‘twins’ to begin with.

 

[therumblewagon]

https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/the-manifold/2022-08-31/

Civic Type R to pack 326 hp, according to leaked brochure

Intake: Though Honda unveiled the 2023 Civic Type R a few months ago, the automaker did so without specifying power output from 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder. Now, a supposedly leaked Japanese brochure posted to an 11th-generation Civic forum indicates that the new top-dog Civic will boast 326 hp, a gain of 20 ponies over the outgoing version. Torque is also up, from 295 lb-ft up to 310. The brochure reveals that the final drive ratio will drop slightly, from 4.111 to 3.842. Although cars tend to get heavier with each new generation, the new Civic Type R won’t gain much heft; the brochure indicates a curb weight of just 3153 pounds, up a mere 32 pounds over the outgoing CTR. (That said, curb weight can be calculated differently in different countries, so don’t take that 3153 figure as definitive for the U.S.-market car.)

Exhaust: Honda has already announced that the Civic Type R is the fastest front-drive car to lap its Suzuka test track, and that it would soon attack the Nurbürgring Nordschliefe in attempt to knock down that lap record as well, which currently stands at 7:40.1, accomplished by a 2019 Renault Megane R.S. Trophy-R. Hot hatches may be a dying breed, but we’re thrilled that Honda is giving its wild sport compact another go. The forum post also speculates that early production through April 2023 is likely to be around 6000 units, although there’s a rumor that Honda is considering upping that number to 10,000 units due to high demand, particularly in the Japanese market. The more the merrier, we say, especially if Toyota is going to limit GR Corolla production. — Nathan Petroelje

 

[DevonK]

Just wish the thing wasn't so huge these days, I test drove an SI a year ago and it was like driving a full size Japanese sedan from the aughts like my father's Maxima.

 

[BobDigi5060]

Just wish the thing wasn't so huge these days, I test drove an SI a year ago and it was like driving a full size Japanese sedan from the aughts like my father's Maxima.

Huge?

I'm 5'11 the Si has enough legroom for someone my height to sit behind me and not move up my seat.

I think the veloster and elantra are still relatively small and pack turbos. Something for everyone out there.

BTW the new Type R looks so much better. The last gen looks too boyracer and an like an upside down nutsack. The headlights are so clean! Reminds me of the 5th gen civics.

 

[DevonK]

Golf R length: 169"
CTR: 182+".
Only 6" shorter than a Mustang.

 

[takemorepills]

Just wish the thing wasn't so huge these days, I test drove an SI a year ago and it was like driving a full size Japanese sedan from the aughts like my father's Maxima.

My wife and I test drove a Gen 10 Civic Sport hatchback a few years ago.
And she actually did mention it felt like her old 1997 Maxima SE in size. We had our 2016 GTI at the time, and the Civic felt enormous compared to the GTI.

I kinda liked the Gen 10 Civic, more room for subwoofers and relatively light curb weight despite it's large size.....

 

[Haste]

Official 2023 Honda Civic Type R (FL5) Specifications

• 315-horsepower Civic Type R is the most powerful Honda production vehicle ever sold in the U.S.
• Developed in Japan and track-tested around the world, Type R delivers the best driving experience in the hot hatch segment
• Beautifully integrated advanced aerodynamics give the new Type R a sleeker design

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-a...vic-type-r-adds-power-performance-and-swagger

Hottest Hot Hatch Brings More Heat: All-New Honda Civic Type R Adds Power, Performance, and Swagger

August 31, 2022 — TORRANCE, Calif.

• 315-horsepower Civic Type R is the most powerful Honda production vehicle ever sold in the U.S.
• Developed in Japan and track-tested around the world, Type R delivers the best driving experience in the hot hatch segment
• Beautifully integrated advanced aerodynamics give the new Type R a sleeker design

The most powerful model in Type R's 30-year history, the all-new 2023 Civic Type R is the most powerful Honda production vehicle ever offered in the U.S. On sale this fall, the new Type R delivers the best driving experience in the hot hatch segment, combining class-leading performance with an all-new immersive cockpit experience, and a sleek, muscular new design.

"Type R is very important for Honda as the pinnacle of our factory performance and an irreplaceable brand that enables enthusiasts to experience Honda's racing spirit, and seek the ultimate in speed and driving pleasure," said Hideki Kakinuma, global Civic Type R development leader. "The all-new Civic Type R will continue that legacy, leveraging Honda's racetrack-proven engineering to deliver extreme performance and passion—both on the road and on the racetrack."

The Civic Type R embodies Honda's challenging spirit, with six different designs since its debut in Japan as a 1997 model. Only the second Civic Type R model ever sold in the United States, the all-new and more powerful 2023 model recently set a new production-car front-wheel drive track record at the Suzuka Circuit in Japan, home to the Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix, securing its legacy as the best performing Civic Type R ever.

Track-Proven Performance

Already a class leader in ride, handling and steering performance, engineers conducted extensive development in Japan, and undertook rigorous testing at racetracks in Japan, North America and Europe to further improve Civic Type R's chassis. This included testing on Germany's infamous Nurburgring, the world's most challenging racetrack, helping make the all-new Type R more responsive, more comfortable and more thrilling-to-drive than ever before.

Under its new vented aluminum hood is an even more powerful version of Honda's award-winning K20C1 engine. Horsepower, torque and response are improved by a redesigned turbocharger, increased air intake flow rate, and a new more efficient exhaust system that features a straight through design and an active exhaust valve. The size, shape and number of the turbocharger's turbine wheel blades have been optimized along with the flow path of the intake charge, enabling the turbocharger to generate pressure in a wider range and more efficiently.

The turbocharged 2.0-liter 4-cylinger engine now produces 315 horsepower @ 6,500 rpm (SAE net) and 310 lb.-ft. of torque at 2,600 – 4,000 rpm (SAE net) – improvements of 9 hp and 15 lb.-ft. Civic Type R is one of the most powerful cars in its class per liter, with a specific output of 157.8 hp/liter, up from the previous-generation's 153.3.

A larger grille opening, bigger radiator and a new large-diameter fan improve engine cooling, ensuring sustained, optimal performance during extreme driving. To further strengthen the driver's connection with the car, the active exhaust valve opens at higher rpm to heighten and enhance the sound of the engine.

Type R's smooth and precise six-speed manual transmission is further improved for an even more intimate and rewarding connection with the driver. A lighter flywheel and a revised rev-match system ensures perfectly paired rev-matching when shifting down through the gears, helping maintain stability on corner entry. The high-strength gearbox has also gained a high-rigidity lever and optimized shift gate pattern for a reassured and hyper-precise gear change. A standard helical-type limited-slip differential puts the engine's power to the pavement effectively.

Now based on the all-new 11th-generation Civic Hatchback, Civic Type R's scalpel-sharp responses and famously addictive driving feel are increased even further by a significantly more rigid body structure that supports both improved dynamics and refinement. The wheelbase has been extended 1.4-inches for a smoother ride and greater stability. Now measuring 107.7-inch, it's the longest wheelbase in its class.

Its front and rear tracks are also significantly wider (+1.0 inches in the front and +0.75 inches in the rear). Together with a retuned dual-axis strut front and multilink rear suspension, these changes improve straight-line stability and steering feel. For exceptional braking performance, Type R's two-piece front brake rotors reduce unsprung weight. Brake cooling is also improved, and a retuned brake booster enhances feel and controllability.

Drivers can seamlessly switch between four pre-set performance settings, selecting different modes for the engine, steering, suspension and engine sound. In addition to Comfort, Sport and R+ Mode, a new 'Individual Model' mode enables customization of the driving experience.

Powerful, Sleek and Sophisticated Design

Beautifully integrated advanced aerodynamics give the new Type R a sleeker, more sophisticated, yet muscular look. Designed with input from aerodynamic development members of the HRD Sakura Super GT team, its exterior is also more aerodynamically efficient, generating more downforce improving high speed stability.

Designed in Japan, Type R's new, more muscular body is 0.8-inches longer, 0.5-inches lower and 0.6-inches wider with broad fenders flared out over wider tracks, and lightweight 19-inch matte black alloy wheels wrapped in wider (+20mm) bespoke Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. The new wheels use a special "reverse rim" design that improves the stability of the tire contact patch under load.

All body panels forward of the A-pillars are new and unique to the Type R, including a new more aggressive front bumper design. Its lower stance is accentuated by wider rear doors exclusive to Type R and a reshaped rear bumper that reveals its updated signature three round exhaust outlets. A redesigned rear spoiler with aluminum stanchions and a new rear diffuser intensify downforce and reduce drag.

Civic Type R will be available in five striking colors: historic Championship White-- a Type R exclusive finish revered by Honda enthusiasts, Rallye Red, Boost Blue, Crystal Black Pearl and Sonic Grey Pearl.

Performance Focused Cockpit

Designed to support intense driving experiences, the cockpit of the new Type R enhances the exhilaration of driving with emotive, performance-focused details and features, including Type R's iconic red seats, carpet and trim, a redesigned aluminum shift knob, and a serialized Type R plate on the dash.

The driver sits lower than before in new, lighter, body-stabilizing sport seat, yet with greater visibility courtesy of thinner pillars, relocated side mirror, and a lower hood. New lightweight, heavily bolstered front sports seats with suede-effect upholstery offer both exceptional support and comfort on the track and during long drives.

To better support performance driving, Type R's exclusive new digital instrument cluster features clean, easy-to-read graphics and an extensive selection of displays. The design features a large tachometer and gear-position display, plus a multi-information display.

A second new meter design is exclusive to Type R's +R mode and allows the driver to obtain necessary information instantly, with the engine rpm, and gear position placed at the top. A racing-inspired illuminated rev indicator located above the gauge cluster gives the driver a quick indication of engine rpm during performance driving.

Technology has been smartly integrated into the Civic Type R's new cabin with a focus on the driver, including a new 9-inch Color Touchscreen – the largest touchscreen ever in a Type R – with wireless Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™ compatibility. Qi-compatible wireless charging and a Bose Centerpoint premium sound system, which was custom-engineered precisely for the interior of the 11th-generation Civic, are also standard.

Exclusive to Type R, a new enhanced version of the Honda LogR® Performance Datalogger combines the Type R's onboard computer and sensors with a new built-in vehicle app. This helps drivers monitor and record a variety of performance parameters in real time when driving on the track or other closed courses, helping to improve driving skills.

Honda LogR® no longer requires a smartphone app, so drivers can use the on-board system or connect to their smartphone for added capability and data sharing. Key features include a stopwatch to record lap times, a tire friction circle in 3D motion that displays the maximum tire force the vehicle can achieve, and an innovative scoring function that helps drivers improve their skills on the track. Users can share their lap times and other data with other Type R owners.

 

[Captain_Kirk]

 

[vb22]

Type R Wagon chop.