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there's a white one up for sale here in Brissy for about $82k
This one's legit, guy is on FB also, if I wasn't as committed to the Blue I'd seriously consider buying this, the car looks good in white, my 370z was white and I loved the why it looked
 
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Yeah..but when you click “private” then there is actually only the one white coupe and four Protos up for sale
Out of around 30 on non private “dealer” options.
This is what makes me think…somethings going on

What’s more the private sales are the ones selling at more reasonable prices.
Dealers all over 100k
 
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being the 3 people I know who got a Proto all were very very early orders I don;t think so.
(one of those hated the gearbox that much his was the 2nd that the dealer in WA bought. and was trying to talk me out of getting one!)
I don’t know…there’s guys on here that have been waiting a year and a half @Ballast Scorcher ordered pretty early .
I can’t see 20 out of the 100 ( being generous) delivered would be legit up for sale already.
Like I said I’m a cynic and I feel really bad for anyone who is still holding out for a proto seeing these come up in these types of numbers
Not good advertising for Nissan either because it’s either dealer Tom foolery or people not liking the car enough to keep it
 
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What’s more the private sales are the ones selling at more reasonable prices.
Dealers all over 100k
Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

  • Dealers need to sell at driveaway price inc stamp duty
  • Private sale is the sale of the car - then when you transfer the rego you pay stamp duty etc. based on the state
end price either way would be fairly similar?
 

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I dint know…there’s guys on here that have been waiting a year and a half @Ballast Scorcher ordered pretty early .
I can’t see 20 out of the 100 ( being generous) delivered would be legit up for sake already.
Like I said I’m a cynic and I feel really bad for anyone who is still holding out for a proti seeing these come up in these types of numbers
Not good advertising for Nissan either because it’s either dealer Tom foolery or people not liking the car enough to keep it
I'm going to make a wild guess here.

people got the car and went Fk it if I can make 20K over night why not.
if it doen't sell I'll keep it.

hell I would be tempted!

but then I am very patient and could wait for another.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

  • Dealers need to sell at driveaway price inc stamp duty
  • Private sale is the sale of the car - then when you transfer the rego you pay stamp duty etc. based on the state
end price either way would be fairly similar?
No that’s incorrect.. in WA at least stamp duty is in addition and not included (at least it was on my sons car when we purchased it) unless it’s advertised as drive away. Most secondhand dealerships have “exc gov charges”

Note that on all the adverts for the Zs including dealers they have written..excluding gov charges, so not the same price ….in most cases the dealers are selling between 10-20k more ….again, that’s why I think something dodgy has gone on

There are a couple which have the drive away price, but most do not
 
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I ordered my Proto in Sept 2021, hence i suspect other Proto orders where Feb 2023 was provided by Nissan were a similar date.
 

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No that’s incorrect.. in WA at least stamp duty is in addition and not included (at least it was on my sons car when we purchased it) unless it’s advertised as drive away. Most secondhand dealerships have “exc gov charges”

Note that on all the adverts for the Zs including dealers they have written..excluding gov charges, so not the same price ….in most cases the dealers are selling between 10-20k more ….again, that’s why I think something dodgy has gone on

There are a couple which have the drive away price, but most do not
This is correct - at least in WA. My drive away price in WA is ~$82,500. If I was to try and sell straight away and get my money back -zero profit - I would have to sell at $82,500 plus govt charges - which in WA would be $5,362.50 plus a transfer fee of ~$20. So the end used drive away price would now be $87,882 - a 6.5% increase.

Before anyone asks - mine will not be for sale unless I somehow end up with 2024 Mustang Dark Horse in my garage in the next 12 months (unlikely).
 

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Ok in QLD , most prices are drive away.
I think dealers will generally quote drive away even on used, but with a private sale the obligation is on the purchaser to lodge their half of the transfer paperwork and pay the duty. WA at 6.5% I think is perhaps the highest in the country.
 
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I think dealers will generally quote drive away even on used, but with a private sale the obligation is on the purchaser to lodge their half of the transfer paperwork and pay the duty. WA at 6.5% I think is perhaps the highest in the country.
All our taxes are the highest in the country ?
That’s why the Z costs the most here drive away
 

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I ordered my Proto in Sept 2021, hence i suspect other Proto orders where Feb 2023 was provided by Nissan were a similar date.
I know for a fact that people that paid ordered in October 21 have their Protos in their garage.. This is what annoys the crap out of me. You ordered before them and have nothing..
 

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but damn there ate 19 Protos for sale right now.
One of those is mine. I've had a couple offers in the low 90's but I've decided to keep it unless I get an offer too good to refuse (mid 90 or higher).

I'm pretty sure I will end up keeping it, so much so that I've irresponsibly ordered a HKS exhaust, the one in this post: https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/t...-vr30ddtt-super-turbo-muffler.1719/post-55271 Very expensive but by far the best sounding IMO. Should be here in 2-3 weeks hopefully.

Separately, (according to FB) the quarantine issue talked about in this article has meant Nissan has decided not to send any more cars until the backlog has cleared. No idea if accurate or not. https://www.drive.com.au/news/quarantine-crisis-deepens-thousands-cars-stranded/
 

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Separately, (according to FB) the quarantine issue talked about in this article has meant Nissan has decided not to send any more cars until the backlog has cleared. No idea if accurate or not. https://www.drive.com.au/news/quarantine-crisis-deepens-thousands-cars-stranded/
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When I was with BlueScope we had the same issue ship left Port Kembla loaded with customer orders and then got held up in NZ account of stink bugs, ship was fumigated twice over a two week period before being allowed to dock
 
 






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