General Ask a Nissan Salesman Thread

[Evolution]

This thread reminds me why I never go directly to the dealer to buy a car. I use a broker instead. Did for my Supra as well as my soon to be GR86. Best car buying experience ever.

 

[Drseckzytime]

Oof. That "best customer service" all for the low low price of $5000 gratuity to a stealership... Just to have to notify those 100 people you're getting 2, and that doesn't mean your customers will be fulfilled unless you're the only salesperson. Maybe Bob has a guy with more money than brains willing to pay $12k ADM, guess who's getting one of those Z's. Because any stealership charging ADM cares about one and only one thing, money... They don't give a F about customer experience, integrity, people in general. They only care about money.

 

[because_murica]

He is trying to justify b.s. I live in AZ the dealership here is selling AT MSRP. They advertise on the radio NO car sold over MSRP. I have the 1st Choice of the Z they receive. The bottom line is simply there are dealerships that are “ Insert expletive here” .
There are some ( very few) dealership that are straight forward. The O.P is NOT a part of an honest dealership just that simple.

We have a dealership like that in NJ. Ditschman dealerships. Any "justification" given for ADM is pure bullshit.

No matter, hopefully the dealership model is not long for this world.

 

[because_murica]

Oof. That "best customer service" all for the low low price of $5000 gratuity to a stealership... Just to have to notify those 100 people you're getting 2, and that doesn't mean your customers will be fulfilled unless you're the only salesperson. Maybe Bob has a guy with more money than brains willing to pay $12k ADM, guess who's getting one of those Z's. Because any stealership charging ADM cares about one and only one thing, money... They don't give a F about customer experience, integrity, people in general. They only care about money.

#Bigfacts

 

[McLovin157]

It’s all good . I have it in writing ! No add on’s no b.s . This is the way business should be done. Maybe you can go and fine an honest dealership to work for. Good luck

The end game goal is to transition to working for Nissan of USA. There isn't a Nissan dealership in my area that has the atmosphere that the one I work at does so I am happy here currently. Moving out of state just isn't an option for me and my family. Congrats to you though for real. When we finally start seeing Z cars I hope to see yours posted here!

 

[McLovin157]

We have a dealership like that in NJ. Ditschman dealerships. Any "justification" given for ADM is pure bullshit.

No matter, hopefully the dealership model is not long for this world.

It's a weird and violent relationship but there is a lot of truth to the statement that manufacturers like the dealership model. It is a very large cushion for manufactures to keep a positive relation with the owners of there products. It allows them to keep a positive relation with their drivers and push blame to dealers for their transgressions.

 

[McLovin157]

Interesting. Was just reading up on that approach - could be worthwhile if saving time and aggravations. A key though, seems finding a solid broker, which in itself could take some time digging around.

This thread reminds me why I never go directly to the dealer to buy a car. I use a broker instead. Did for my Supra as well as my soon to be GR86. Best car buying experience ever.

As someone who has never worked with or knew could even be an option. How does using a broker for a vehicle purchase work?

 

[because_murica]

Interesting. Was just reading up on that approach - could be worthwhile if saving time and aggravations. A key though, seems finding a solid broker, which in itself could take some time digging around.

Agreed. Need to read more into this. In the alternative, I'd like to see what exactly would be required to become a broker. If it's nothing more than an LLC and insurance, would be tempting to setup my own brokerage.

 

[Donalex]

Agreed. Need to read more into this. In the alternative, I'd like to see what exactly would be required to become a broker. If it's nothing more than an LLC and insurance, would be tempting to setup my own brokerage.

For the most part, dealers HATE brokers. It usually means higher discounts, less backend products, and no or minimal commission for salespeople.

Since brokers rely on dealer relationships to get cars and deals, you'll have to walk into that line of business with that already accomplished.

 

[Evolution]

Interesting. Was just reading up on that approach - could be worthwhile if saving time and aggravations. A key though, seems finding a solid broker, which in itself could take some time digging around.

It saves so much time and aggravation. When I got my Supra, I was at the dealer I picked it up from for 15 min signing all the paper work and I was done. I even had the offer to do a home delivery and sign everything at home.

As someone who has never worked with or knew could even be an option. How does using a broker for a vehicle purchase work?

Its the same exact thing as working with a normal salesman without being at the dealership. The exception is that its more like working with the sales manager directly. The broker has to work with the dealer on pricing but for the most part its always at MSRP. However, with my Supra, there was an incentive on financing. If you used the brokers finance company, a discount was offered on the purchase. Again, this was not through the dealer but the finance company itself and only available through the broker.

 

[siggy]

It saves so much time and aggravation. When I got my Supra, I was at the dealer I picked it up from for 15 min signing all the paper work and I was done. I even had the offer to do a home delivery and sign everything at home.



Its the same exact thing as working with a normal salesman without being at the dealership. The exception is that its more like working with the sales manager directly. The broker has to work with the dealer on pricing but for the most part its always at MSRP. However, with my Supra, there was an incentive on financing. If you used the brokers finance company, a discount was offered on the purchase. Again, this was not through the dealer but the finance company itself and only available through the broker.

When did you buy your Supra? If pre pandemic or beginning of pandemic, do you think you’d have the same experience today?

 

[Evolution]

When did you buy your Supra? If pre pandemic or beginning of pandemic, do you think you’d have the same experience today?

I got it a little over a year ago. So mid pandemic? There were 0 on the lot and I still had to wait a month to get it. I can still get a manual one at MSRP today (lot longer wait time), through the same guy, if I wanted. So nothing has really changed besides no lender discount. Same for my 86. Getting it at retail with no haggling.

 

[McLovin157]

It saves so much time and aggravation. When I got my Supra, I was at the dealer I picked it up from for 15 min signing all the paper work and I was done. I even had the offer to do a home delivery and sign everything at home.



Its the same exact thing as working with a normal salesman without being at the dealership. The exception is that its more like working with the sales manager directly. The broker has to work with the dealer on pricing but for the most part its always at MSRP. However, with my Supra, there was an incentive on financing. If you used the brokers finance company, a discount was offered on the purchase. Again, this was not through the dealer but the finance company itself and only available through the broker.

Interesting, I've never heard of anyone using anything like this to purchase a car. Heavily simplified it sounds like hiring someone to buy a car on your behalf. The only thing I don't particularly "like" is the financing option. I have no idea what kind of terms, conditions, rates, etc. the broker my provide but financing through the manufacturer is better 99% of the time. Obviously this doesn't apply to all individuals, situations, or cars but I don't know a single financial institution that is offering 0.9% out to 72 mos.

Last questions in regards to a broker is how much did that cost you? Is there a flat fee or a percentage of the vehicle purchase? How do they get paid?

 

[McLovin157]

If anyone is trying to get into a new commuter car take advantage of trade values while you can ?. At the auction looking at used Nissans and it is depressing. A new 2022 SV Sentra MSRP at $22k and 2021 Sentra SVs with 10-15k miles are being sold at auction for 24-26 grand......

 

[Z hope]

If anyone is trying to get into a new commuter car take advantage of trade values while you can ?. At the auction looking at used Nissans and it is depressing. A new 2022 SV Sentra MSRP at $22k and 2021 Sentra SVs with 10-15k miles are being sold at auction for 24-26 grand......

Don’t worry it won’t be much long . SOON interest rates are going to shoot up and things are going to change big time .