As a daily, would you go for a manual trans or the Nismo auto?

[Peteyboii]

This is user error on your part, an experienced manual driver can get in any manual trans car and not stall, the Z has a very easy to modulate clutch and is easy to drive.

of course
this is my first manual car except for driving the family cars rarely haha
but comparatively the bite point (or like my point where my knee / leg sits up) felt much higher then the others.
the dealer then drove the car and made a similar mistake, on takeoff first time LOL
weirdly enough, the other manual z i drove which was used (not new) was piss easy to drive for me, only stalled it once.

 

[Peteyboii]

Yep, each car model has unique clutch action, and you can adjust more quickly with some. Across the makes, my current Cayman S, NC Miata and prev E46 M3, were all easier to adjust to quickly. The Z is good but like my old G35S, the 6 speed's clutch is about mid level at engagement, it is a tad harder to 'find' the bite point, but after driving it a bit, no issues, should not stall. Just not as intuitive.

this is my feeling too, and im sure id get used to it if i owned the car rather then driving around the block in peak traffic with a guy totally up my ass lol

 

[Peteyboii]

I had to change the exhaust on my manual performance so that I could manage the clutch better. To not having to rev the engine too much. It helped because I could hear the engine and give a smooth take off.

looking at ur profile pic wondering did u get hte nismo auto as well as as perf z and which do u prefer overall?
also yeah , i think hearing the exhaust note will somehow help me too..

 

[Peteyboii]

If you want to be fast at the drag or stop light to stop light then get the Auto. It you want to have fun shifting gears get the Manual.

I went from an Auto 24 Mustang GT to a Manual 25 Performance Z. Having had a few fast Autos, I wanted to get back into a Manual. The Z is one of the easiest cars I have driven that was a Manual. The clutch is alittle stiffer than some, the shifter is pretty nice for stock. This is the first car I haven't wanted to swap to a short throw shifter.

I would not suggest anyone new to driving a manual to not release the gas pedal completely.
If you are stalling or lurching it is because you are not coming off the clutch smoothly or too fast.

thanks
i think i needto get used to putting gas in at the right time, i was practicing rolling forwards and the bite point at the light by just leaving the car in first gear and playing with the cluthc on and off without stalling, but then struggled after haha

as i mentioned in another comment above however, strangely on a modified Z i had no issue and also a used stock Z.... hence why i wonder if thier "bite point" was adjusted on their cars.

im not sure why one of these comments were coming at me like im blaming the car rather then myself for not bneing used to it, but yeah i do want to know if i can adjust that pedal

 

[alienpoker]

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I would not suggest anyone new to driving a manual to not release the gas pedal completely.
If you are stalling or lurching it is because you are not coming off the clutch smoothly or too fast.

True if you are brand new to stick. I’m not taking about flooring it and bang shifts. Not lifting completely off the gas pedal will give a different feel to how the clutch/trans work together. These cars live to rev, if you’re stalling, it may help you find the correct rev range. This is just from my experience, and I hope it helps someone. YMMV

 

[CPerdomo]

looking at ur profile pic wondering did u get hte nismo auto as well as as perf z and which do u prefer overall?
also yeah , i think hearing the exhaust note will somehow help me too..

I purchased the performance first; MT. But then got a good deal on the Nismo IMO. So I exchanged them. I don't like automatics, so the back and forth with the salesman(s) took forever. In all honesty, the Nismo is impressive. I can't wait to test drive the manual version.

 

[Peteyboii]

I purchased the performance first; MT. But then got a good deal on the Nismo IMO. So I exchanged them. I don't like automatics, so the back and forth with the salesman(s) took forever. In all honesty, the Nismo is impressive. I can't wait to test drive the manual version.

Thanks
It looks like we're about to pull the trigger on the Nismo auto used for a decent price but not sure

 

[Xylander]

If performance is a key consideration, you go Nismo AT all day long. I can drive a stick just fine, but when the auto equipped car is considerably faster, I don't opt for the slow version. I'm in my 40s, I couldn't give a shit what other people think about it having an auto or a stick. The auto's faster and the Nismo is a much more potent car. A nismo with a manual is just slower for the same price. So, no thanks on that.

 

[Peteyboii]

If performance is a key consideration, you go Nismo AT all day long. I can drive a stick just fine, but when the auto equipped car is considerably faster, I don't opt for the slow version. I'm in my 40s, I couldn't give a shit what other people think about it having an auto or a stick. The auto's faster and the Nismo is a much more potent car. A nismo with a manual is just slower for the same price. So, no thanks on that.

my father whos a bit older then you thinks the same
hes telling me to just get an auto and enjoy it who cares about doing stick if ur daily driving haha
i loved the feeling of the manual (when its modified specifically) but is annoying having to do modificaitons to make it into a car it should imo be from factory, this is just my personal opiniion tho

nismo is a strong contender

 

[Xylander]

my father whos a bit older then you thinks the same
hes telling me to just get an auto and enjoy it who cares about doing stick if ur daily driving haha
i loved the feeling of the manual (when its modified specifically) but is annoying having to do modificaitons to make it into a car it should imo be from factory, this is just my personal opiniion tho

nismo is a strong contender

I'm a pretty simple type of driver. I'm performance focused. Period. I'll make concessions for comfort if it means better lap times. But, what I will never do is pick the lesser performer in favor of comfort or sometimes even enjoyment. I enjoy a manual trans, but the performance disparity between the Nismo's auto and the manual is stark. It's over a half second in the quarter mile and I've seen almost a full second 0-60 in favor of the auto in this car with the Nismo in Sport+.

Where I tend to get a little funny feeling is when I see folks say, "Oh, you can just get a Performance and put a sway bar and tires on it." The Nismo is a lot more than that... and a Performance starts life in a hole. Worse, if it's a manual. So, by the time you get done trying to mod into a Nismo, you still can't shift but 1/3 as fast as the computer assisted auto. Then, the Nismo has larger lightweight wheels (less unsprung mass), larger tires, improved injector performance, better cooling and better brakes. If you've ever driven a Nismo, compare it to the brake feel in the Performance. A Performance can't do but barely 2 hot laps before it gets dangerous brake fade. I've done 10 in the Nismo in one stretch.

When you test drive the Nismo, make sure it's in Sport +. It's a whole different car in that mode.

 

[Peteyboii]

I'm a pretty simple type of driver. I'm performance focused. Period. I'll make concessions for comfort if it means better lap times. But, what I will never do is pick the lesser performer in favor of comfort or sometimes even enjoyment. I enjoy a manual trans, but the performance disparity between the Nismo's auto and the manual is stark. It's over a half second in the quarter mile and I've seen almost a full second 0-60 in favor of the auto in this car with the Nismo in Sport+.

Where I tend to get a little funny feeling is when I see folks say, "Oh, you can just get a Performance and put a sway bar and tires on it." The Nismo is a lot more than that... and a Performance starts life in a hole. Worse, if it's a manual. So, by the time you get done trying to mod into a Nismo, you still can't shift but 1/3 as fast as the computer assisted auto. Then, the Nismo has larger lightweight wheels (less unsprung mass), larger tires, improved injector performance, better cooling and better brakes. If you've ever driven a Nismo, compare it to the brake feel in the Performance. A Performance can't do but barely 2 hot laps before it gets dangerous brake fade. I've done 10 in the Nismo in one stretch.

When you test drive the Nismo, make sure it's in Sport +. It's a whole different car in that mode.

Thanks I drove it once before but forgot how it felt I jisy remembered having some issues with gearing initially

Did you learn how to use the gearing in a way that makes daily fun until you need to slow down and do some normal driving for a bit too?

 

[Xylander]

Thanks I drove it once before but forgot how it felt I jisy remembered having some issues with gearing initially

Did you learn how to use the gearing in a way that makes daily fun until you need to slow down and do some normal driving for a bit too?

I daily mine, so yes. The transmission is a bit wonky... it's also why when I finish my big engine rebuild, I'm going to do a ZF trans swap as well (that and the stock unit isn't going to handle 800hp). But, until then, I think I have this thing sorted out.

For daily driving... A>>B, commuting, etc., I just leave it in standard mode, usually. In standard/sport modes, it doesn't like to go fast. There's some input delay, worse in standard, less so in sport. Shifts are tuned to be soft and sloppy. I believe that's built in to keep the car nice and smooth... for comfort. So long as you're not trying to set a new personal best 0-60 or something, that mode is fine.

For when you want to go fast, and/or manually shift with the paddles, sport+ is the way to go. Much more aggressive shifts, better throttle response, and little to no input lag. On the downside, it doesn't like to go slow. It'll hang onto gears longer... sometimes leaving it in 3rd or 4th at 5,000 rpm long after you've gotten done romping on it. But, in the moment when its needed, it shifts wonderfully and actually does a good job around the track.Try as I must, I've never been able to beat the auto's 0-60 by using the paddles manually. (personal best 3.4s)

One thing I've noticed... and it could be just my car, but I believe the gauge cluster isn't showing the exact right RPM. As-in, there may be some very small lag between actual and what the display shows. I say this because when I paddle to shift up at near redline, it misses and hits the limiter. However, if I set the shift light lower to around 6,000rpm, by the time I pull the paddle, it shifts quick and hard as it should. When the shift gets "hung up," it's usually because the rev limiter trips the shift due to hitting the redline. That's been my experience anyway. Once I learned to drive around that quirk, it's been fine. By my guess, the gauge cluster at wide open throttle is running about 200rpm behind actual.

I have a regularly scheduled service checkup in a couple weeks, so I'll have them take a look at that and report back if anything comes of it.

 

[CPerdomo]

Thanks
It looks like we're about to pull the trigger on the Nismo auto used for a decent price but not sure

It takes a while to get used to. But in my opinion, the Nismo is the top model; unmatched by the others. Sure you could modify the others... and the Nismo as well. But in the Nismo's case, no need to modify... it's perfect as it is. That is why I'm curious about the MT version of the Nismo. I want to see what the difference is... if any... other than just shifting gears.

 

[CPerdomo]

... But, what I will never do is pick the lesser performer in favor of comfort or sometimes even enjoyment. I enjoy a manual trans, but the performance disparity between the Nismo's auto and the manual is stark. It's over a half second in the quarter mile and I've seen almost a full second 0-60 in favor of the auto in this car with the Nismo in Sport+.

Where I tend to get a little funny feeling is when I see folks say, "Oh, you can just get a Performance and put a sway bar and tires on it." The Nismo is a lot more than that... and a Performance starts life in a hole. Worse, if it's a manual. So, by the time you get done trying to mod into a Nismo, you still can't shift but 1/3 as fast as the computer assisted auto. Then, the Nismo has larger lightweight wheels (less unsprung mass), larger tires, improved injector performance, better cooling and better brakes. If you've ever driven a Nismo, compare it to the brake feel in the Performance. A Performance can't do but barely 2 hot laps before it gets dangerous brake fade. I've done 10 in the Nismo in one stretch.

When you test drive the Nismo, make sure it's in Sport +. It's a whole different car in that mode.

Couldn't agree more. For those that think the difference is just a couple of thicker swaybars... the Nismo has chassis reinforcements. Sorry, but having owned a MT performance first and having changed to bigger swaybars, there is no comparison. The only issue with the Nismo is the price

 

[CPerdomo]

...For daily driving... A>>B, commuting, etc., I just leave it in standard mode, usually. In standard/sport modes, it doesn't like to go fast. There's some input delay, worse in standard, less so in sport. Shifts are tuned to be soft and sloppy. I believe that's built in to keep the car nice and smooth... for comfort. So long as you're not trying to set a new personal best 0-60 or something, that mode is fine.

Completely agree...

For when you want to go fast, and/or manually shift with the paddles, sport+ is the way to go. Much more aggressive shifts, better throttle response, and little to no input lag. On the downside, it doesn't like to go slow. It'll hang onto gears longer... sometimes leaving it in 3rd or 4th at 5,000 rpm long after you've gotten done romping on it. But, in the moment when its needed, it shifts wonderfully and actually does a good job around the track.

Same experience for me...

...One thing I've noticed... and it could be just my car, but I believe the gauge cluster isn't showing the exact right RPM. As-in, there may be some very small lag between actual and what the display shows.

I've notice the very same thing with mine...

...I have a regularly scheduled service checkup in a couple weeks, so I'll have them take a look at that and report back if anything comes of it.

Looking forward to see what they say... if anything...

The part that I hated the most was the way the transmission behaves in second gear. Specially when using the paddles. So what I've learned is to combine using the paddles and then use the shifter to get it back into automatic. It works perfectly. Of course, that means more work from my part; but that is exactly what a manual transmission would require from me